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COMMON COUNCIL MINUTES
PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
June 1, 2000
The Common Council of the City of West Lafayette,
Indiana met in the Board of Works Room at City Hall on June 1, 2000 at the
hour of 4:30 p.m.
Council Windler, who presided, called the meeting to
order.
PRESENT: Keen Mills O'Callaghan Satterly Sparby Windler
Cohen arrived at 4:35 p.m.
ABSENT: Mayor Margerum
Also present were City Attorney Bauman, City Engineer
Snyder, Director Andrew, Police Chief Marvin, and Fire Chief Ford.
UNFINISHED BUSINESSS
Ordinance No. 11-00 An
Additional Appropriation (Mayor, Kalberer Road Improvement Fund) (Prepared
by the Clerk-Treasurer)
Councilor Windler said Ordinance No. 11-00 is an
additional appropriation from the Mayor and for the Kalberer Road
Improvement project as prepared by the Clerk-Treasurer's office. Is Josh
[Development Director Andrew] here? Do we have anybody from Development?
Councilor Sparby said this is old business.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said this is old business and
the Kalberer Road Improvement Fund is really established in support of the
Engineering Department, who has presented agreements for payments in lieu
of improvements to Kalberer Road to the Board of Works.
There was no discussion.
Ordinance No. 13-00 An
Ordinance to Amend the West Lafayette City Code on Wastewater Treatment
(Prepared by the City Attorney)
There was no discussion.
Ordinance No. 15-00 An
Ordinance to Vacate Utility Easement (DeSilva) (Prepared by Paul J. Couts,
C&S Engineering)
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said I believe we have Mr. Couts
here and the petitioner.
Mr. Couts said Dr. DeSilva is here if you would like to
hear from her as far as what she'd like to do and why.
Councilor Windler said this is the one with the pool
that is built into the easement.
Shari DeSilva said I moved to West Lafayette in
September. The day after I sold my house in Maryland and two days before I
closed on the house on Pawnee, I found that the pool touched a utility
easement. I decided we would go ahead and buy the house anyway and get a
variance and asked that it be vacated. We've gotten letters from the
various utility companies agreeing to vacate the easement. The pool has
been there over a decade, about 15 years. I would simply like to legalize
an existing situation.
Councilor Keen said have you had any complaints or
concerns from any of your neighbors on the pool at all?
Dr. DeSilva said no.
There was no discussion.
NEW BUSINESS
Ordinance No. 14-00 An
Ordinance to Annex Certain Lands into the City of West Lafayette (McAlister)
(Prepared by the City Attorney)
City Attorney Bauman said that ordinance has been
submitted and the petition will be in by Monday night's meeting. It is a
voluntary annexation.
Dan Teder (Reiling, Teder, & Schrier Law Firm) said
I'd be glad to make a presentation, if you'd like. Alan White is also here
this evening. He's part of the development group. He can answer some
questions if you'd have those. I brought along an aerial photograph which
I think will help you. This is Lindberg. Obviously, this is McCormick
Road. We have some rezonings in here, too, and I'll discuss those to
explain how we are getting to annexation. This is the McAlister property
here. This is the Bogan property here. This is the Simmons property here.
The McAlister property and the Simmons property are coming up before the
County Commissioners for a rezone from R1 to R3. The Bogan property is
coming up before the Area Plan Commission for rezone from R1 to R3. The
annexation property includes the PSI substation, a little sliver of land
between our property and PSI which is owned by the church, and then all of
this property that we have in the rezone portion. Concerns were made at
the Area Plan Commission. I would at least like to talk about those
briefly. One of the concerns was the safety issue that we have because
Lindberg Road is going to be improved in the future. I guess my comment to
you would be that this is really no different than what we are obviously
doing down at the Levee. We have a lot of safety issues down there, and
yet, there is development going on. We believe this is something that is
reasonable for this area, especially when our access is going to be off of
McCormick. We believe that most of the traffic will then come to the
four-way stop and continue on down McCormick to the university or they're
going to continue, probably, in a northerly direction out here to that new
development that's going on because there will be some neighborhood
business out in that place. We don't believe, even once Lindberg is
improved, obviously there will traffic on there, unless we have a lot of
golfers in this area, we are not going to have the traffic going down
Lindberg as we would the other way, in my opinion. That's one concern. The
other concern was how that impacts some of the single family homes over
here. Again, I don't believe it does. What's going to impact them is the
Mike King development which is in this area here that's going to be in the
County and it's going to be a least 200 units in that area. I don't think
our units will impact them. We have units here, which are apartment units.
Again, they are all kind of gathered in this area. I think that really is
important. There's both pros and cons for that. It's the Area Plan and we
talked about it at those meetings. I think what it's doing is taking some
of the apartment people out of the other areas, some of the single family
areas, and concentrating them more in areas of this nature, which I think
is good for everyone. Additionally, we have promoted or discussed with
Area Plan that this is really not an R1 development area. We have the
power lines here, we have the PSI substation. This is really a sliver
piece. To suggest that we are going to have single family units in there,
we did a drawing that we would present to Area Plan and the Commissioners
later on, to show that there is only between and 14 and 16 homes that
could potentially be built in there. All of them would be backing to the
power lines. The discovery that I've looked at with some of the realtors
would say that if you are backed up to the power lines the potential of
resale is difficult and is extended a little bit. So we think in that
regard that that's another good reason for it. I would be happy to answer
any questions. Like I said, Alan's here, he would be happy to answer any
questions. I'm giving you the background on a rezoning that is not really
part of the annexation. It's to let you know what the status of what that
is, also.
Councilor Sparby said how many units are we looking at?
Mr. Teder said 195 or 6. That brings up a good point.
If we were in the County, we would have more units. We come into the City.
The City standards would not allow as many units. We discussed that with
City Hall a little bit and that, we thought, was favorable. Additionally,
there was discussion that the density is greater here than it is here.
Obviously, we don't have a ten or fifteen acre pond, if you include all of
that which is part of their development. Our density is no different than
what they have down here at Blackbird Farms. In fact, I think our density
is less.
Councilor Sparby said why are you seeking annexation if
by coming into the City you have fewer units?
Mr. Teder said well, because we are wanting the police
and the fire protection. We think it's important for our development, and
the sewers. There is American Suburban out there. We are all aware of
that. American Suburban is taking all the other areas around it. Everybody
says well how can we have all the developments today, and I'm sure you
think that and you see that in the paper and you ask those questions. My
opinion, at least out in this area of town, downtown is a different story,
I'll let Mike talk about that, but out here there has been no sewer. So
when there's no sewer, that means there's no development. All of sudden
now we've got sewer, we've got the expansion of the sewer. All those
people that were going to build before are coming along online now.
Everybody's saying well it's all at once. Well, it's really just been
backed up. We are picking up what should have been done the last year, two
years, three years, four or five years ago. So, I don't think it is that
unusual because that sewer is in or coming in sometime in May or June.
Councilor Sparby said Bob [Bauman], if we annex that,
will that go into the Blackbird TIF Fund?
City Attorney Bauman said no, the annexation doesn't
put it into that district by itself.
Councilor Sparby said that would take Council action to
put it in the TIF district?
City Attorney Bauman said I don't know that we are
expecting any proposal to do that.
Councilor Windler said are you going to develop that
southern segment there? Is that going to be apartments, as well? Or is
that going to go to retail?
Mr. Teder said well, no. That's being rezoned from R1
to R3. It was needed to get the annexation one-eighth area contiguous, but
the thought of the Area Plan is to that this is better off as R3. It's
better surrounded by R3 than letting it sit there and nothing being done
at this point and seeing it be NB or something else down the road, which
is not what they want.
Alan White, the developer, said a gentleman named Mr.
Simmons owns the property. He's lived there for forty years. He see things
coming his way and asked to participate in it if he would come into the
City.
Mr. Teder said but it's all R3, which is apartments
just like the surrounding. It would not be NB, which would be neighborhood
business. It could have a gas station or something of that nature.
Councilor Cohen said a lot of the builders are doing
Purdue's work for them lately. What kind of housing are you going to be
looking at?
Mr. White said we are looking at the student market. I
think the location is indicative to being a student market where we're at.
Again, McCormick Road into campus keeps the traffic focused that way. So,
yes, I think we are targeting the student market.
Mr. Teder said Arni [Councilor Cohen], if I could
comment. We checked the mix in Blackbird and there is, I don't have it
exactly, but it's more like a 60/40 mix student and other residents. I
think that same mix is going to occur here, and perhaps, would even occur
down in King's. I don't think any of these are going to be all students
and the outlying areas aren't all students. I think the only place we have
that is south of State. Everything else has some mixture to it. That
mixture changes, probably, the farther out that you get, in my opinion.
Now I thought Happy Hollow with Knob Hill and Whispering Winds, there may
be five percent that's students. It's just graduate students, young
married people, working people, things of that nature. I don't think that
would be the case here, but I thinks it's going to more like a 60/40 mix.
Councilor Keen said do you have any kind of a
conceptual drawing of what you are anticipating put in there?
Mr. Teder said we are working on that. You don't have
that quite done yet [referring to Mr. White].
Mr. White said it will be ready tomorrow. Is that too
late to come back?
Councilor Sparby said bring it Monday night.
Mr. Teder said we can bring it to you Monday evening.
In that regard, I just want to say, I'm here tonight to answer a lot of
questions because I'm, unfortunately, going to be out-of-town on Monday
night. Alan [White] will be here and someone else from our office would
come. But don't hold that against us, please.
Councilor Satterly said your access will be off of
McCormick and off of Lindberg?
Mr. Teder said no, the only access that we see, and
obviously it is always subject to the subdivision process with Area Plan,
but I've talked to the County Engineer's office and I've talked to Area
Plan and everybody believes that this is the best entrance to have because
we've got sight distance both ways. We are far enough away from the
four-way stop that it allows access, with some safety to it, versus if we
have it down here we are too close to the intersection and therefore less
safety.
Councilor Satterly said and you don't plan Lindberg?
Mr. Teder said we have no plans to do that. Obviously,
the County Engineer could force us to do that. But at this point, we do
not want that.
Councilor Satterly said how can the County Engineer
force you if you are annexed in to the City?
Mr. Teder said excuse me, the City Engineer.
Councilor Satterly said Jan [Councilor Mills], Area
Plan Commission sent it on to the Commissioners with no recommendation?
Councilor Mills said no recommendation.
Councilor Satterly said what were the Area Plan
Commissions reservations?
Councilor Mills said I can't really speak for everybody
that voted no.
Mr. White said we can say what the staff report said.
They are still referring to the 1980 Land Use Plan.
Mr. Teder said to answer your question, the vote the
first time, we came up twice with Area Plan, the first time was 5 YES to 7
NO. The second time was 7 YES to 5 NO. As a result, you need eight votes
down there to move it on. We were not able to do that, so it automatically
moves on then to the County Commissioners and will be heard sometime in
June before the County Commissioners. The comments from staff were that
probably this is an area to do that, their concern was that it was pretty
mature and I guess we felt like it was . . .
Councilor Satterly said mature to what?
Mr. White said they had some concerns about the
utilities. And what's changed in that time frame is we not only have
available West Lafayette City sewer if we were annexed, but we also, right
through the center of our property, is an easement for American Suburban
that's serving Mike King's project. So we now have two sources of sewers.
Mr. Teder said and I think your concern was the safety
issue.
Councilor Mills said well, my concern was more density
actually than safety.
City Attorney Bauman said one of the things that we did
discuss, when they came in to talk about the possibility of being annexed,
was would they be willing to abide by the density restrictions of R3W and
they agreed that they would, which will reduce the density.
Councilor Mills said and not with their property, I
should clarify that. That's not my concern. I think theirs looks very
good. But my concern was the density in that square mile there because
Mike King is putting in 365 apartments. And he has another 20 acres
between the two.
Mr. Teder said this aerial photograph was taken before
King was developing. His development is here. The additional land that he
owns up here. This is something that's going to go to American Suburban. I
guess my feeling is that I partially agree with you, is that it does
impact, this would have some impact on there and those people will more
than likely go to Lindberg. I think that our impact here is more with the
apartments over here and the likelihood is that we are going to go this
way. There is going to be some that way, but I think we are going to see
some of that plus we are not impacting, in my opinion, the single family
over here. There is very little impact. The impact that we are having is
with the remaining apartments that are over here and what might transpire.
Now the reason this hasn't been built, in my opinion, is that no one knows
where the new S. R. 231 is going to go.
Councilor Mills said that is another concern I had.
Mr. Teder said one of the proposals is that it could
come over here. This land, in my opinion, will never be developed until
that is decided. There has been a number of developers that looked at it.
No one wants to take that shot until they see how that configuration is
going to work out. So it would seem to me that is a likelihood that this
is an area that will end up being a multifamily-type of area. Again, I
think we have real negative things for single-family homes in that area. I
agree it causes more density, but it does have a positive that it takes it
away from somewhere else and puts it here.
Councilor Mills said I have a hard time complaining
about that because my district is so hard hit.
Mr. Teder said it is not a perfect world out there. I
can't give that, but I think it is, all things considered, this is one of
the best alternatives for this area in here. I think it's very favorable
to West Lafayette and what it does for you people if we come into the
City. It not only helps us, but it greatly helps you, as well.
Councilor Mills said I think it is favorable to the
City in that regard too, but again, with all of those people coming out on
those two roads, that's my concern I think.
City Attorney Bauman said I think, in fairness to this
developer, they did volunteer to reduce the density to what we would
require. We have on several occasions had discussions with that other
developer out there and he had steadfastly insisted on developing to a
higher density than would be allowed in the City. I think we should be
careful that we don't punish other people for what the other guy is doing.
Councilor Mills said I agree and I have to say that I
have very mixed feelings when I voted on Area Plan. For most of the time I
was convinced I was going to vote in favor. I feel like my position there
is representing a bigger group than my position here on the Council. So I
had to go with my conscience for the Area Plan. It's not that I'm against
your development, because I'm really not. I'm more concerned about, I
guess, just over developing any one area.
Mr. Teder said I guess the only other comment I would
add, and I think representing developers and real estate people most of my
life, what I've seen with Lafayette or West Lafayette especially, is
either we are overdeveloped for apartments or we're underdeveloped. What's
happened in the last five to seven years is we've been way underdeveloped.
So what occurs, these people, like the ones out on S.R. 52, they get their
sheets and they look at West Lafayette one percent vacancy rate. They say
go find us a place in West Lafayette and build. Then what happens? We get
overbuilt by five or ten percent. And that's what occurring. Once that
occurs, then the occupancy rate changes and then those people go look
somewhere else. That happened back about ten to fifteen years ago. We had
a number of buildings and everybody said, "Oh, we had too much."
Well then there was no building again for multi-families, because it had
to catch up. I think that's the world we live in. It is not where we say,
"Well, we have no place for these students that are living in tents.
Now we need to build." That doesn't happen.
Councilor Mills said certainly Purdue isn't picking up
the slack. So it has to be done.
Councilor O'Callaghan said if this development was not
annexed into the City, would it increase the density to the standard that
the County would allow?
Mr. White said yes, we could. We could add another
three to four units per acre, provided that the zoning goes through. We
have a letter from American Suburban that says we can, they have capacity
for us. It would change the density about three to four units an acre.
Mr. Teder said American Suburban definitely wants us.
That's not the question.
Councilor Windler said how many beds per unit are you
going to have?
Mr. White said it'll be a mix between mostly two to
threes. Probably a couple fours in each building on the end caps and
that's about it. But mostly twos to threes.
Mr. Teder said I don't think it's Alan's [White]
intent. The other developers are Mike O'Malley and Shane O'Malley, and
they do own some student apartments. They own a lot of other things, too,
but I think they are looking at a mix. This is not, in my opinion, going
to be South State Street at all. You've got businesses out here. You've
got a number of very large businesses. I think you are going to see that
mix just like you've seen over here. We are going to build, I don't know
if it's going to look the same as what Blackbird is, but I think it's
going to be the same quality and the same type of look, which is I think a
nice look that they have down there. They are well taken care of. I think
the same thing would occur here. So you are going to have some mix in
there. To say it's going to be all students and Harry's Three is coming
over here, that's not going to happen. It's going to have that mixture to
it.
Councilor Keen said do you have any estimate on the
amount of assessed value this will have?
Mr. Teder said I guess I have not looked at that. Bob
[City Attorney Bauman], have you?
City Attorney Bauman said I have, but not recently. I
would assume it would be similar, for example, per unit assess values to
Blackbird.
Mr. Teder said what are you estimating the cost is to
build those units Alan [White]? Do you have a price in mind?
Mr. White said probably in the $40,000 to $50,000 a
unit range I would guess.
City Attorney Bauman said the really rough rule of
thumb is the assessed value would be about a sixth. I say that's real
rough.
Councilor Sparby said so you are looking at probably
500 to 700 people in those apartments. Somewhere around there.
Mr. Teder said I would say that is probably reasonable.
Councilor Sparby said I guess the question I have is
for Chief Ford and Chief Marvin. Do you have any concerns with this
because if we are looking at your departments being responsible for this
and you are going to have to access it off McCormick, as opposed to
Lindberg.
Fire Chief Ford said with the growth to the west, the
request for annexation, will become an expense eventually. It will require
the third fire station, more firefighters and equipment. However, that
development there is not much further north than the Blackbird Farms is to
the south. So I think we are within the range there. We talked to other
fire departments. Whenever Lindberg starts their reconstruction process,
we are going strike a deal with them for a quick response to that area. So
at the same time, we can make arrangements on that.
Councilor Sparby said who is responsible for road
maintenance on McCormick, that section, as far as snow removal and all
that?
Mr. Teder said I think McCormick out here would be the
County, wouldn't it?
Councilor Sparby said so the County has to have it
cleared so that our fire and police can get out there.
City Attorney Bauman said no, if that's annexed, then
that would come in to the City.
Councilor Sparby said the City would have to.
City Engineer Snyder said only half of it.
Mr. Teder said half width improvement and half width of
road. I think density, we are probably talking more like 400 to 600, in
that range, because there's going to be some two bedrooms in there too,
would be my estimate.
City Attorney Bauman said again, we are already
maintaining various other roads out there, Lindberg and all the roads in
Blackbird Farm.
Councilor Sparby said would not it be advantageous for
us to put this off until all the rezoning questions and the APC is all
done with this?
Councilor Mills said we're done.
Councilor Sparby said you are completely done with it?
Councilor Mills indicated yes.
City Attorney Bauman said this is first reading, that
will be done before this will become final.
Mr. Teder said we've got this through APC, which is
McAlister. We've got Simmons through APC. Bogans will not occur until next
month. These two then will come through the County Commissioners on the
19th.
City Attorney Bauman said the requirement for hearing
though, they'll be done long before we get to the hearing.
Mr. Teder said I guess we thought with the nine-month
process to get through annexation, now is a good time to start on that. So
that's why we are before you.
Councilor Mills said the Simmons property, the small
property, that passed Area Plan unanimously.
Mr. Teder said that was 12-0.
Councilor Sparby said did you have any concerns Dan
[Police Chief Marvin]?
Police Chief Marvin said no. As Chief Ford alluded to,
as we do continue to grow out in that area, it is going to place
additional demands of both of our departments for additional personnel.
But it's very close to Blackbird Farms. It's not that much further for us
to respond.
Councilor Windler said OK. Unless there's anymore
questions, let's move on.
Mr. Teder said thank you very much.
Ordinance No. 16-00 An
Ordinance Amending Chapter 3 of Ordinance No. 32-97 being the Unified
Zoning Ordinance of Tippecanoe County (Submitted by the Area Plan
Commission)
Councilor Mills said these are coming up, kind of
continuously before the Area Plan Commission. Now that NUZO has been in
effect for a reasonable amount of time, they're finding that the language
in certain ordinances need some changes. Just for clarification or to
prevent something that's occurred that they didn't expect. That's what
this is actually. A business had come before the Area Plan asking to be
able to change tires where they sold them. Under the way they were zoned
currently that wasn't possible. So rather than, they actually had come to
ask for a rezone, and rather than that, they decided they should go back
and look at the wording and make it clear. This passed Area Plan, 11-1.
I'm sure we will see more of these. Just clarification to footnotes and
definitions.
Councilor Windler said there is a staff report on the
last page that may answer some questions, if you have any.
There was no discussion.
Ordinance No. 17-00 An
Ordinance to Enact a New West Lafayette City Code Chapter 83, Establishing
Requirements for Licensing of Peddlers (Prepared by the City Attorney)
Councilor Windler said this also includes transient
merchants.
Chief Marvin said this is an effort to update the
ordinance and actually make it more enforceable for us and put some teeth
into it for peddlers and people who come into to town and don't want to
follow the rules. It gives us a method to deal with those individuals.
Councilor Windler said I would like to point out an
incident that happened last fall with a peddler that had attacked a Purdue
student at the very beginning of the semester. It was difficult in that
investigation to find out who the peddler was because they did not know
because they did not register with the City. It was difficult. I believe
it was kind of by a fluke that we found out who was going around door to
door. Didn't they knock on a detective's door, actually?
Chief Marvin said no, our investigators were able to
find information out. They did a really good job with that case.
Councilor Windler said that case was resolved
successfully. But, like the Chief says, this will put some teeth into the
solicitation-type ordinances and maybe just help the police in the future
with those kind of cases or prevent them outright. The gentleman in
question that was convicted was wanted in Georgia for some very serious
charges. I believe it was sexual battery and child molestation.
Councilor Sparby said I believe that the City Attorney
and I met late last summer, we talked about drawing up such an ordinance
after a question had come up repeatedly about a food vendor who was
erecting a tent on Sagamore Parkway right next to a structure that was
operated by a tax paying business. It would be just like somebody putting
a tent in your parking lot [refer to Councilor Cohen]. They are not
contributing to the tax base at all to the City. The property owner next
door to the restaurant gave them permission to throw this tent up and sell
food. The restaurant was extremely unhappy about it. Besides that, it was
very unsightly to be up there. I think now this puts us in compliance with
the change through the Health Department because our ordinance was not.
Part of our existing ordinance was not even valid anymore because of
changes the County had made to the Health Department.
City Attorney Bauman said that could be. Many of our
ordinances were adopted back when the City handled health regulations.
That, of course, has been moved by the Legislature to the County.
Councilor Sparby said will this affect the corn the
farmers come in and sell on the corner?
Chief Marvin said yes it will.
Councilor Cohen said oh heavens, that's good corn.
Councilor Sparby said I know it. A lot of people go
over there, but just so we have an understanding that that will affect
anyone that tries to set up a tent or a cart.
Councilor Keen said I think it would be a good idea for
them to be licensed though, just as well as anyone else.
Councilor O'Callaghan said they can still do it, they
will just have to pay a license fee.
Councilor Cohen said Dan [Chief Marvin] what are some
of the examples of the teeth that are put in this? What are the
differences? What other power would you have now?
Chief Marvin said before there was actually no
mechanism for us to cite someone into Court if they did not come in and
register with us. So now that language is actually in the ordinance so we
can get them in the court system and do something with the individuals.
Before it just said pretty much that you had to come in and do it. It does
spell out what the penalty will be for each day that you are in violation
of the ordinance if you do violate it. It places some time restrictions on
when you can do these types of activities so that you are not out very
late at night in residential neighborhoods. I just think it is really
going to help us serve the community better in keeping track of these
people and what they are doing in the City.
Councilor Sparby said so if I want to put a hot dog
stand up on Sagamore Parkway, I have to come to the Police Department?
Chief Marvin said that will be correct.
Councilor Sparby said would you then check with the
adjacent property owners to make sure they do not object to that
happening?
Chief Marvin said that would be part of the application
process. We are going to make sure that they have permission. If they are
setting up a stand somewhere, where they are going to be set there and not
traveling about, we are going to make sure that they have permission to be
there. That they've checked it out and they know they are going to be
allowed to set up in that parking lot or wherever it is they are going to
be.
Councilor Sparby said but the adjacent property owners
would not necessarily be aware of it or have a say?
City Attorney Bauman said they don't have power to veto
it.
Councilor Cohen said how about festivals and things
like that?
Councilor Sparby said like Global Fest.
Councilor Cohen said like Global Fest. I know this
weekend there's a soccer tournament at the Purdue fields and also . . .
Councilor Sparby said but that's Purdue's property.
Councilor Cohen said but they are also having it out at
Cumberland Park.
Chief Marvin said is this put on by the school or by
the Parks Department?
Councilor Cohen said it is put on by . . .
Councilor O'Callaghan said TIPPCO.
Councilor Mills said a league, right?
Councilor Cohen said they are bringing in teams from
all over.
City Attorney Bauman said that would be covered by the
section in 83.13(a)(3).
Councilor Keen said I think another thing that might
apply here too, if this is referring, as far as the application goes, it's
referring to transient merchants, peddlers, and itinerate dealers. If
you've got someone that's a part of the community, I don't know if we can
consider that as being a transient peddler. Or am I interpreting this
wrong?
City Attorney Bauman said I think that's correct.
Again, that is defined on the first page.
Councilor Windler said something else of note. Under
the exemptions, exemption (a)(7) is "any person who has grown the
food that is offered for sale" is covered under the exemption. So
that's your corn venders.
Councilor Cohen said well I guess that first part
really, transient merchants.
Councilor Sparby said transient would apply to anybody
that's not in the City. So if you were in Lafayette and you came over
here, you'd be a transient.
Councilor Cohen said well, as a matter of fact, we will
be coming over here, that's why I'm concerned. We're going to be catering
both those locations.
Councilor Sparby but if it's for a charitable . . .
Councilor O'Callaghan said it says "in conjunction
with" and you are doing it in conjunction with.
City Attorney Bauman said but also in (a)(2) if they
are a permanent place of business in the County.
Councilor Sparby said so the one in particular that I
was referring to from last summer would be exempt from this then.
City Attorney Bauman said might be.
Councilor Sparby said they can come over and pitch
their tent again.
City Attorney Bauman said might be. They have a place
of business in town. There are other issues that are involved in that, as
well, such as zoning. The purpose of this basically is to regulate people
who are in a position to sort of "hit and run" the community and
be gone. To require licensure and to do background checks, photo IDs, and
that sort of thing.
Councilor Keen said so if I wanted to do something
under 83.13(a)(2), if I wanted to throw up a tent someplace, all I'd have
to do is go into City Hall and say I plan on being here for three months
and I'm exempt. Then I can move out in three weeks and say things didn't
go well and so I decided to pack up my bags and leave.
Councilor Cohen said well you have to get the OK from
the Health Department also.
Councilor Keen said well I understand that. But what
I'm saying is with this 60 days, if they are going to be here for a
continuous period of 60 days, what do we have that holds them to that 60
days? I mean I could come in and say well, I plan on being here for the
next six months even, and then I could just say in two weeks well, my
business didn't go and pack up and leave and never having registered, paid
the fees, or anything.
Councilor Windler said well we can always, you know,
there's a place of business. You can ask that type of merchant, well
where's your place of business? Is it zoned properly? Is it a permanent
structure? Are you renting? Are you, maybe something about having a lease
agreement or property statement.
City Attorney Bauman said we'll look at that. What
we've done is we've taken some different ideas from several communities.
Councilor Keen said I think it is a good beginning. I
think it's something that's long overdue.
City Attorney Bauman said what we're trying to do is
address some of these concerns.
Councilor Keen said you want to be able to regulate is
what it amounts to.
City Attorney Bauman said yes.
Councilor Sparby said let me go back to my favorite
cause, this tent. You are saying that's a zoning issue?
City Attorney Bauman said well, partly it may be. In
the past, there are times, I believe, that they have had activities there
that were zoning violations, for example.
Councilor Sparby said why was it never enforced then?
City Attorney Bauman said for example, there was some
signage there that was far in excess of what was allowed.
Councilor Sparby said because I know I had called City
Hall repeatedly about that and nothing was ever done about it. I know you
[City Attorney Bauman ] and I had talked about it and I think Scott [City
Engineer Snyder] and I had talked.
Councilor Windler said were they selling fireworks or
what?
Councilor Sparby said no, they were selling barbecue.
And they were right next door to Pizza Hut and Pizza Hut is a tax paying
business in this City and I just thought it was awful that they're
pitching a tent and they are pulling business away from Pizza Hut and they
are not paying us a lick of taxes.
City Attorney Bauman said well, as we go through this,
we can look at that and see where we draw the line.
Councilor Windler said there are two separate readings
on this, so we can always amend it later.
Councilor Sparby said I just feel we need to protect
our merchants that are established in our City.
City Attorney Bauman said yes, I think we've also had
issues come up in terms of . . .
Councilor Keen said safety.
City Attorney Bauman said well, that, and also at
times, I think, there have been concerns raised about people popping up on
street corners selling supposedly licensed merchandise. There have been
several areas that this problem has manifested itself.
Councilor O'Callaghan said so is the number 6
exemption, Barb [Councilor Sparby] that you think allows that? What was
the reasoning behind having that number 6 exemption?
Councilor Mills said no, that's like a sidewalk sale or
something, isn't it?
City Attorney Bauman said but, on the other hand, the
whole regulation is of a transient merchant peddler which is defined. Some
of these are good questions we ought to discuss so this can be tightened
up. But, I think that we are trying to strike a balance between reasonable
regulation and not just constructing red tape for legitimate business
people.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said just one clarification. Do
you anticipate the penalties and fines to be cited to City Court and paid
through Court rather than having the Ordinance Violation Bureau because of
that $100 limit on what we can accept.
City Attorney Bauman said I would just like to clarify
we have not provided for any of this to go to the Ordinance Violation
Bureau.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said it's all going to be cited
to Court?
There was no further discussion.
Resolution No. 15-00 A
Resolution Approving the Designation of an Economic Revitalization Area
for Property Tax Abatement for Optolynx, Inc. (Prepared by the City
Attorney)
Resolution No. 16-00 A
Resolution Approving the Designation of an Economic Revitalization Area
for Property Tax Abatement for SSCI, Inc. (Prepared by the City Attorney)
Councilor Windler said we've got two resolutions coming
up here, number 15 and 16. These resolutions are about tax abatements for
two companies that are up and coming here in the Purdue Research Park. The
first one is Optolynx, Inc. and the second one is SSCI, Inc. I believe we
have representatives of both corporations. This is Mike Brooks from
Greater Lafayette Progress.
Mr. Brooks said if I can just take about two minutes. I
know we are fast approaching the bewitching hour of what I suspect is the
cap here to your pre-caucus. Each of these two companies have been, I see
in your documents, through the Redevelopment Commission and has a
recommendation from the Redevelopment Commission. I'm happy to be here
tonight to tell you that is, I think, exactly the kind of development that
West Lafayette in your strategic plan really wants to encourage. The
competition for these businesses is pretty significant, as you might
guess. Without going into a lot of detail, what I would like to do is
offer to each of you if you have any questions between now and Monday
about the tax abatement program, I'd be happy to meet with you Monday and
visit with you and answer any questions you might have. We did do a
workshop a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I don't think any of you able to
make that. But I've got documents for you and information if you'd like to
have it. To introduce the two companies, first of all we have Optolynx.
Nancy Bulger is going to speak to the Optolynx story. This is one of the
more exciting stories that I've heard about economic development in West
Lafayette in a long time.
Ms. Bulger said we are happy to answer any questions
that you may have tonight. Our big dream is to become the leading fiber
optics communication company in the world. We have our little office set
up. We have a sales office set up in California and also a facility in
Korea. At this time, we have 11 full-time employees. We hope to grow to 25
by the end of the year and by year three have 38 employees. I brought a
few brochures to share with you so you can get an overview of the company
and also a few key slides that tell you about employees. I don't know if
we have the amount of money in the equipment in that, but I think that's
in the application that we completed.
Mr. Brooks said the application has over $8 million
over five years.
Director Andrew said they could have asked for ten, but
five was felt to be enough.
Mr. Brooks said each of the two companies requested a
five year abatement as opposed to ten that potentially they could have
been eligible for. So we talk about brain drain, and we talk about all the
things that we read about and hear about. These are companies that are
actually trying to do something about that not just for the State of
Indiana, which is obviously good for all of us, but West Lafayette in
particular.
Ms. Bulger said we hope to keep the number of Purdue
University students here in the area and also go out and recruit some
former alums and we're targeting Minneapolis and Austin and Indianapolis
and a few other places for that. Any questions you have we are most happy
answer.
Councilor Sparby said can you explain the scale on your
revenue chart? Is that dollars?
Ms. Bulger said yes, thousands of dollars.
Mr. Brooks said I would also like to point out that the
folks that are here today are more than willing to accommodate you on a
tour of the facilities if you would like to take that advantage. We had
talked actually about trying to schedule something like that but knowing
how difficult it is for schedules and timing, we felt that the more
appropriate vehicle would be to say to you that you are welcome to come
out and visit the site. Right now it is a lot of empty space.
Ms. Bulger said it is under construction right now. But
we welcome the opportunity to show it off to you and, again, we are happy
to answer any questions you might have.
Councilor Sparby said would you be the person to
contact if we wanted to tour the facility?
Ms. Bulger said yes, that would be fine.
Councilor Sparby said what's your phone number?
Ms. Bulger said 775-4556. Or Jeannie Cox. It doesn't
matter.
Councilor Windler said I would just like to point out
to the rest of the Council that in the State of Indiana there has been a
lot of talk about high tech and all that good stuff. Purdue Research Park
is the only one of its kind in Indiana and the community of West Lafayette
has got a wonderful opportunity to take advantage of the situation. Now IU
has one in Bloomington, but that's more medical based, even though we do
have Cook Medical up here, but they work in conjunction with another
facility down in Bloomington. Really, I would encourage everyone to look
this over carefully, because we are given a golden opportunity here.
Ms. Bulger said I didn't say it, but the genesis of our
company really came out of Purdue University's research in the Electrical
Engineering School. We hope we become a crown jewel for Purdue. One of
those crown jewels is that we are having a start up company here in West
Lafayette.
Mr. Brooks said I might also add to Nancy's point. You
as a Council approved the tax abatement for the Purdue incubator at
Purdue's Technology Center. Nancy's company and Sally's [Byrn] company
both are either in process or a graduate of that incubator programming. So
that really does illustrate how important it is to have that opportunity
to support the incubation of high technology business.
Director Andrew said could I also interject, Bill
Baitinger [President, Economic Development Commission] couldn't be here,
but in the handout I gave you that last paragraph is his words.
Mr. Brooks said Sally Byrn is president of SSCI.
Ms. Byrn said SSCI stands for Solid State Chemical
Information. The easiest way to understand what we do is to think of
carbon, which exists as graphite, coal, and diamonds. Organic compounds
exist the same way. They can change from one crystal form to another
without going into a liquid or a gas. You may have been taught in high
school chemistry that in order for something to change it has to move to a
liquid or a gas, but that's not the case. It can change crystal forms in a
solid state. Before there were generic drugs, this was an academic pursuit
that my husband studied as a Purdue pharmacy professor. But with the
advent of generic drugs, they realized the reason the population was
saying to the FDA some of these drugs don't work is that the generic
company was marketing diamonds and the original company had graphite on
the market. Suddenly, this became critically important to the
pharmaceutical industry. Our idea originally was that we could teach short
courses then he would be able to educate the pharmaceutical companies and
then he would get to stay home more and we might make enough money to put
all of our kids through college. We inadvertently created a market for the
services. So we opened a lab in the fall of 1993 in the original
incubator. And the company has just grown and grown since then. We now
have 33 employees. We are hiring an average of one to two a month. We're
requesting tax abatement on new equipment that we are going to be
purchasing, because we have several opportunities that are going to force
us to expand, possibly even double in the next year or two.
Councilor Cohen said where are you located?
Ms. Byrn said we are now in what's called Innovation
Center. Purdue Research Foundation built this building as a graduation
facility for companies, such as ours, that are either too big or too
profitable to still be in an incubator. I would be happy to tour any of
you even if you just dropped in tomorrow. The upstairs looks like a
regular chemistry lab. The downstairs is all very high tech equipment.
Councilor Windler said are you in the same building
with Stan (Mithoeffer)?
Ms. Bryn said I am catty-corner from Stan. I'm in the
big, kind of square tan brick building.
Councilor Windler said I rent from the Purdue Research
Foundation so once a month I have to make that trek.
Ms. Byrn said we consider our building much prettier
than the incubator.
City Attorney Bauman said I should point out, when Mike
[Brooks] did the seminar a little while back, he had a number of people in
and we discussed the fact that we are now allowed to give abatements on
research and development equipment. That is new. It facilitates these
kinds of knowledge-based businesses, which were a priority of the City's
Strategic Plan. Previously, if the machine didn't stamp a widget, the
State wasn't interested in trying to encourage the development. Thank
goodness, at last, that has been changed. That will become effective July
1. So we have here a couple of opportunities to be in right at the ground
floor in terms of the State finally seeing the light in terms of
encouraging these kinds of businesses and this kind of development.
Director Andrew said I would also like to point out
that Mike [Brooks] has worked very diligently to get this law through
working with our local legislators.
Mr. Brooks said this is the one that was passed in the
fall mini-session.
Ms. Byrn said I'll give you my phone number in case you
want to come and visit us, 463-0112.
Councilor Keen said I would just like to say one
comment, I don't know if anyone saw the article in The Wall Street
Journal a few days ago about this brain drain issue. One of the things
that was very disturbing that I saw, one of the comments that was made
that, if you are not interested in technology and that kind of thing, move
to Wyoming or Indiana. I think that the types of businesses that these
guys are promoting here is exactly what we need to promote here.
Ms. Bryn said we were able to bring two internationally
known Ph.D. scientists here because of the quality of life because they
wanted a minute and a half commute, they wanted to be able to go home and
have lunch with their kids, they wanted to be able to go to the halloween
parties, instead of an hour and forty-five minute commute.
Councilor Cohen said they will be interested in homes
not apartments, right?
Councilor Windler said that is the spin-off of these
economic developments, is hopefully they will buy homes, pay sales tax,
income tax.
Mr. Brooks said if you have any questions for me, I
will be out Monday morning, but I will be in the office Monday afternoon.
My number is 742-0095.
Director Andrew said can I ask the Council a question?
Do you want a presentation Monday night on the companies?
Councilor O'Callaghan said well, the only reason that
it might be helpful is that people do tend to watch it and we get the
information here. I think it's really nice for the community to get the
information.
Communications
Adjournment
There being no further business at this time,
Councilor O'Callaghan moved for adjournment. Motion was seconded
by Councilor Sparby and the vote was AYE, the time being 5:35
p.m.
Office of the Clerk-TreasurerJudy
Rhodes
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