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COMMON COUNCIL MINUTES
July 10, 2000
The Common Council of the City of West Lafayette, Indiana
met in the Council Chambers at City Hall on July 10, 2000 at the
hour of 7:30 PM.
Mayor Margerum, who presided, called the meeting to
order.
The Pledge of Allegiance was repeated.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes called the roll:
PRESENT: COHEN, KEEN, MILLS, O'CALLAGHAN, SATTERLY,
SPARBY, WINDLER
ALSO PRESENT: City Attorney Bauman, Fire Chief Ford,
WWTU Director Darter, Parks Superintendent Payne, Deputy Police Chief
Leroux, Human Resources Coordinator Foster, and City Engineer Snyder.
MINUTES
Councilor Sparby moved to approve the minutes of the
June 1, 2000 Pre-Council Meeting and
the June 5, 2000 Common Council Meeting
as distributed. Motion was seconded by Councilor Keen and passed
viva-voce.
COMMITTEE STANDING REPORTS
Street and Sanitation: Councilor Satterly presented
this report.
Street closings during construction were reviewed.
Planning and Zoning: Councilor Mills gave this
report.
Councilor Mills said letters will go out on Wednesday
from the Area Plan office to all homeowners, property owners in the New
Chauncey Neighborhood Association concerning the rezoning of that
neighborhood, of that district. The letters will include a map of the
current zoning and inform property owners that the proposal from the New
Chauncey Neighborhood Association will go before the Ordinance Committee
of the Area Plan on July 25 at 4:30 p.m. in the Tippecanoe Room of the
County Office Building. This will be the first opportunity for every
property owner outside of the planning stage, to speak before the Area
Plan Commission on their feelings of rezoning of the neighborhood. This
will be the first opportunity. There will be a second meeting before the
Ordinance Committee which will probably be the following week. Then the
Area Plan Commission staff will actually present their own proposal based
on what the Neighborhood Association has proposed and public input at the
first meeting. Then it will go before the full Area Plan Commission to be
voted on. Then it will come to us, the City Council. So all of the
property owners in that area have at least four opportunities to have
input into the process of the rezoning.
Public Safety: Councilor Keen presented this
report.
Councilor Sparby said I have had some inquiries about
West Lafayette police officers directing traffic at the construction site
down on River Road. It's been on the radio quite a bit. People have
observed that our officers are down there directing traffic on a state
construction project.
Deputy Police Chief Leroux said first of all it is not
a State construction, it is Eagle Valley Construction. Eagle Valley, in
their traffic plan as part of the contract that they received, has to
provide flagmen. They've chosen to pay our officers to do the flagging at
that construction site.
Councilor Sparby said so all of the officers down there
working at that site are . . .
Deputy Police Chief Leroux said are being paid by Eagle
Valley.
Councilor Sparby said they are not on payroll of the
City at that time.
Police Chief Leroux said they are not on the City
payroll. They are not on overtime through their department.
Councilor Sparby said but they are using West Lafayette
police vehicles when they are working there.
Deputy Police Chief Leroux said that is correct.
Councilor Sparby said can you explain the logic. Why
they are using our resources?
Police Chief Leroux said the thought behind that is
anytime we can have officers working a construction site and make that
passage as safe as we possibly can, if that means putting a marked squad
car down there to assist them, that's what we are going to do for their
safety and for the safety of the people traveling through the
construction.
City Attorney Bauman said Barb [Councilor Sparby]
perhaps you weren't aware, that is a City project.
Councilor Sparby said OK.
Mayor Margerum said that's the sewer extension project.
I think public safety is certainly paramount.
Purdue Relations: Councilor Windler presented this
report.
Parks and Recreation: Councilor O'Callaghan
presented this report.
Department of Development: Councilor O'Callaghan
presented this report.
The Redevelopment Commission will meet Monday, July 17
at noon in the Board of Works Room.
Personnel: Councilor Cohen presented this report.
Budget and Finance: Councilor Cohen presented this
report.
Mayor Margerum reminded the Council that July 17 at
6:30 will be the first of the presentations by the departments on the
budget.
Wastewater Treatment Utility: Councilor Satterly
presented this report.
REPORT OF THE APC REPRESENTATIVE: Councilor Mills
presented this report.
Councilor Mills said the Area Plan Commission met on
June 21. There were a couple of approvals I would like to mention. Komark
Development (Z-1943) for a planned development of 54 semi-attached,
single-family dwellings off of State Road 26, the old PRF property. That
has subsequently been approved by the County Commissioners. The second
approval was the final detailed plans for a planned development in Pine
Meadows, the conversion of 27 existing duplexes into, again, 54
semi-attached, single-family dwellings. That is east of Klondike Road,
between SR 26 and Lindberg. Two other things of interest, Mike King's
rezoning request on Lindberg of 21 acres from R1 to R3 was continued until
next month. Also the Hee-Suk McAlister (Z-1946) property of Alan White was
continued until next month. We'll talk about that a little bit more later
in the annexation discussion.
REPORT OF SPECIAL COMMITTEES: No reports.
Mayor Margerum said the Council has an appointment to
the West Lafayette Library Board and would like to introduce Nick Schenkel
[West Lafayette Librarian]. He has a suggestion for you. There are other
members of the Library Board here if you have any other questions.
Mr. Schenkel said I would like to propose, I know the
Library Board has requested that your current appointee to the Library
Board, Christine King, be reappointed for another four-year term. She can
serve four four-year terms consecutively if the City Council so desires. I
can also, very gladly report to you, that we've been very busy over the
past year. This week it's been Harry Potter, Harry Potter, Harry Potter,
not surprisingly. It's a fantastic opportunity to show that kids do read.
There are no pictures in that book, it is all text. It is well over 600
pages. I haven't read it yet. We are still waiting for those copies to get
through. We do have ten copies and I'm sure we will get more. The
Internet, of course, is a huge impact on libraries currently. I invite you
all to look at our Web page. We've added on new things including our
on-line catalog. Many, many thanks for the Village Beautification project
that is really helping out the Village and certainly helping the library.
It's great to be a part of that project. Doing it in the summer is a
fascinating time. The Purdue students are gone, but the families and kids
are coming in and they are being very good about trooping through all the
construction. The construction folks are also being very good about taking
care of us, as well. May I ask if our Library Board President can make a
few brief remarks.
Mayor Margerum said certainly.
Nancy Dunn said I would like to just bring you up to
speed very quickly about our project for the future and that is what is
going to happen to the West Lafayette Public Library. Are we going to have
new building? Are we going to have an add on? We are not real sure, but
this is what I want to tell you about. Right now we are waiting on a
feasibility study from our architect to tell us what we can do best with
what we already have. We are going to look at fund raising as a Board. We
are going to look at the bond issue, because this Board has not built
anything and so we are just toddling along until we learn about the
process. We've had a lot of input from the community, from the Friends of
the Library, from our volunteers and our staff, and we are still looking
for that all the time to hear what you all want and what you have to say.
We are very excited about the idea of having a new library in West
Lafayette. This just seems to fit in with all the other new things that
are going on in West Lafayette. As a Board, we have sort of taken the idea
that what we would like to have, as a library, is like a jewel box. So,
when we see what our architect has to say, then we are going to move on to
the next step. That's where we are now. Thank you.
Mayor Margerum said thank you very much for that
report. The Council has the appointment. I believe, Chris King was
appointed. How long has she been in office?
Mr. Schenkel said one year.
Councilor Sparby said she replaced Alice Arthur.
Mayor Margerum said I would entertain a nomination for
the Library Board.
Councilor Sparby moved to renominate Mrs. King. Motion
was seconded by Councilor Windler.
There were no other nominations.
The vote was AYE.
Mayor Margerum said we will so inform her that the
Council would like to have her continue to serve.
PUBLIC RELATIONS:
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said I would like to introduce
Janet Broyles who is the government liaison officer for the Greater
Lafayette Chapter of the American Payroll Association. We very much
appreciate you coming here tonight.
Ms. Broyles said you are welcome. We are here to honor
Rebecca Cunningham who successfully passed the exam in the spring. Just to
kind of give you an idea why this is so important. Over 130 million people
receive approximately four billion pay checks every year in the United
States. If you think four billion pay checks times the dollars on those
checks, we are talking major bucks. As a result of that, employment taxes
collect about 70% of the gross federal revenue. Of all the different
venues in which the government collects money, 70% comes out of what is
withheld from your pay check. We process and administer regulations for
over seven Federal and State agencies just in Indiana alone. As a result
of all the compliance issues, the American Payroll Association was founded
in 1982 to provide education and representation in legislative arenas.
Currently, there are about 200 government members of the APA of which we
have representation in the City of Chicago, Detroit, Las Vegas, U.S.
Postal Service, which has over 820,000 employees, and as small as the St.
Louis, Missouri Housing Authority with 50 employees. So there is a great
range of people who recognize the need for this kind of recognition. The
exam itself is a four hour exam. It's very difficult. I think what makes
it special for Rebecca is that she put so much time and effort into this.
She started preparing in April of 1999 to pass the exam in the spring of
this year. This was on her own initiative. She spent 12 weeks going down
to Indianapolis for study groups, then spent the rest of the time in
self-study. She put a lot of effort and thought into this. She also is
expected to have continuing education or else you will have to either
re-exam, which is not fun, I've been there and done that, or she has to
give up her certification. This is a very important recognition on her
part and her dedication to the profession. Rebecca, on behalf of the
American Payroll Association and the City of West Lafayette,
congratulations.
Ms. Cunningham said I would like to thank my family,
Clerk-Treasurer Judy Rhodes and my co-workers, and the Greater Lafayette
Chapter of the American Payroll Association for their support and
encouragement. The CPP accreditation is one of the most prestigious and
respected distinction in the payroll industry and this credential
increases recognition for our City of West Lafayette and contributes to my
capabilities to do the best job that I can for the City employees, as well
as a citizen of West Lafayette. Thank you.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said we really have a
trailblazer here. Becky is one of only five people in government service
in Indiana who hold this credential. In fact, we are the first third class
city to have somebody on our fiscal staff with this credential. The only
other city joining us in Indiana at all with this credential is Fort
Wayne. Becky undertook this program of self-study and rigorous examination
on her own time as Janet pointed out. Your initiative and your achievement
are to be commended and you've brought great credit not only to yourself,
but to the City. Thank you and congratulations.
Mayor Margerum said thank you and congratulations. The
next item on the agenda is a public hearing on the Happy Hollow
Interceptor Rehabilitation Project. This is a requirement, but also an
important opportunity for all those people bordering on the Happy Hollow
ravine to hear what the plans are, to provide any input. I will turn it
over to Rick Erhardt from Malcolm Pirnie, who is the consulting company
who has prepared this for you tonight.
Mr. Erhardt said since this is a public hearing, one of
the requirements is that we have a sign-in sheet. Paul Amico, the Project
Engineer on the Happy Hollow Interceptor Project will be circulating a
sign-in sheet and I would ask that everyone in attendance tonight please
put their name and address on that list. Once this project is submitted to
the Indiana Department of Environmental Management and it is approved,
everybody who has attended the public hearing will get a notice from the
State on that. So that's the purpose of the sign-in sheet. Paul is also
passing out a brief summary of the project which you can look at and give
some highlights on the project. Today's discussion will answer the
following questions: Why is the Happy Hollow Interceptor Rehabilitation
Project needed? What are the major objectives for the project? What
rehabilitation alternatives were considered? What rehabilitation
alternative is recommended? What are the environmental impacts? How is
this project going to be financed?
Mr. Erhardt said the Happy Hollow interceptor is shown
on the map on the screen in the purple line. The interceptor serves the
north and northwest side of West Lafayette. It is a very major sewer. The
tributary area in that is shown crosshatched in light blue. Highlighted in
yellow, basically in the middle part of the slide, are identified five
lift stations that are tributary to the sewer. The distance goes beyond
Happy Hollow itself. The sewer interceptor runs through Happy Hollow Park
and it terminates at the River Road pump station that is identified in
yellow in the lower right. That's a newly constructed lift station that
was just commissioned recently by West Lafayette. That pumps the
wastewater from the north and northwest side of West Lafayette to the
Wastewater Treatment Plant. What I would like to do now is turn it over to
Project Engineer Paul Amico who will get into the specifics and details
for this particular project.
Mr. Amico said I'm going to talk about the actual
project itself, discuss some of the alternatives we looked at, what we
recommend for fixing up the sewer, and lastly, talk about some
environmental impacts that may occur as a result of the project. What we
are looking at is a map that was generated from your digital mapping
system, your Geographic Information System, a project that was initiated
about a year ago, I believe. We were given this information so we could do
this project. It has been very helpful throughout the project. What we've
highlighted here is the interceptor and the tributary collector sewers.
Running from the northwest down to the southeast is the interceptor. It
collects flow from the homes around Happy Hollow Park and, as we saw in a
previous slide, from a large portion of the City. These are the sewers we
considered for this project.
So why do we need this project? The first reason is
that the sewer itself has a significant amounts of internal deterioration.
Recently, an inspection was initiated through the park and all the sewers
in the park and we've noted defects in the sewer system. What we have here
is a clip of the video inspection that was done. As you can see from the
video, this is actually the inside of the pipe here. As the camera moves
through, you can see the internal part of the pipe has corroded due to
hydrogen sulfite attack. The flow channel, or the bottom of the pipe, is
eroded due to the significant velocities the sewer sees because of the
slope. Another very typical defect from the sewer system is seen here, the
gaskets in this pipe. Every one of these joints, every one of these pipe
segments, is about four to six feet long. In between each one of these
pipe segments is a gasket. What has happened, is some of these gaskets
have deteriorated and actually fallen into the sewer, which isn't a very
big deal, but it can allow rainwater to leak into the sewer system during
heavy rains. Another problem that faces the interceptor is surface
erosion. Many of you have walked down through the park and have seen the
steep canyon as you go down through. What we have on the picture on the
right is you can see the manhole or access structure here and a bank of
the stream that is getting very close to that access structure. In many
cases, this can compromise the stability of an interceptor and the pipes
that are there and can actually cause failures if that pipe was allowed to
go into the creek. That hasn't happened in any one of the places in the
park. Another typical defect or situation that we have is what we call an
elevated crossing. This is a tributary collector sewer that comes across
the creek and you can see a piece of foundation material and in some
places that foundation material is being undermined by the flow that the
creek sees. The last situation that affects the interceptor and results in
the need for rehabilitation is poor access. These two pictures show
portions of the path that runs through Happy Hollow Park. You can see in
this portion up near Indian Trail entrance, as you come down from Indian
Trail, the path itself is very narrow. You can see the manhole back in
this area here and we have gabion structures that the Parks Department has
put in here. Those gabion structures serve purposes: one is to stabilize
the soils in the park, the other thing is to hold flow back during very
severe rain events so that we don't wash that creek out anymore than it
already has. You can see those gabion structures here, as well. So these
three things have resulted in a need for rehabilitation.
What were our major objectives in doing this project?
The first and foremost was to fix all the City sewers within the park. The
second thing was to maintain existing capacity of the interceptor. In
other words, we don't want to do anything to hold any existing flow back
in that pipe. We want to make sure that the pipes and manholes are stable
anywhere that surface erosion has compromised that stability. We want to
make sure that's fixed up. We definitely want to improve access to that
sewer for maintenance and cleaning on a routine basis. We are working with
the Parks Department right now to create a dual purpose maintenance and
recreational trail. In other words, we want to make sure that people can
still use that park for the recreational purposes they use now. But first
and foremost, we need a trail to get in there and maintain that sewer.
Lastly, and probably the most overriding objective, is to cause minimal
disruption to the park and the surrounding residents.
So what did we consider for this? The first
consideration that was given to fixing the pipe itself up was total
replacement. As you can see from the photo, this would require us to
actually dig down and put a new pipe in there. A major disadvantage for
this is the fact that we do have to dig into the park. This is a
relatively shallow pipe, so this trench isn't that wide. If we were
required to dig down to replace the sewer in the park, it would cause very
significant disruptions to the park. A second alternative that was
considered was slip lining. In slip lining as you can see from the
picture, what these gentlemen are doing is actually inserting a new
section of pipe into the existing sewer that's here. A major disadvantage
with this alternative would be that each one of these pipe segments is
straight, so everywhere you have a bend in that sewer you have to dig an
access pit. Another alternative we considered is known as pipe bursting.
The graphic at the top actually shows what pipe bursting does. You have a
bursting head that acts as a wedge to drive the old pipe out of the way
and you pull a new pipe in behind it. In this case, we would do it
diameter for diameter. In other words, we wouldn't increase the size of
the sewer because it doesn't need to be increased. We would just maintain
that same diameter. You can see from the photo, the bursting head and the
pipe running off into the distance. Like slip lining, everywhere you have
a bend you have to dig an access pit. So again, it would disrupt the park
from that standpoint. The last alternative that was considered is called
cured-in-place or CIPP lining. What happens in CIPP lining is we actually
insert a flexible sock into the sewer and when that sock goes into the
sewer it snakes around bends and you can line this sewer from existing
access structures in most cases. So we wouldn't need to dig as many access
pits. Circulate hot water through that sock and after a period of time you
have a hard pipe inside the existing pipe. This can be done in relatively
short periods of time because after you are done curing this pipe out,
using a robotic cutter donut, you can cut the service connections out.
This photo shows, again, gentlemen installing the cured-in-place pipe.
Several methods we considered for interceptor
stabilization. You've seen the gabion structures. This is one method that
has already been used in the park. A couple different methods are shown on
the next slide in what we call bio-engineered slope stabilization. You
actually use natural materials to stabilize the slope and use the natural
characteristics of that slope, provide these materials so the soil doesn't
wash away while you get vegetation to grow into this slope. These are
pictures during construction and what would happen after this would be
that vegetation would be allowed to grow up and it would look like a
natural slope.
As far as alternatives for a dual use recreational and
maintenance trail, we are envisioning something similar to the Cattail
Trail that was recently completed by the Parks Department. It would be a
paved path similar to what this photo shows, which is Ft. Benjamin
Harrison Park in Indianapolis. With certain places we envision we would
have places where people would sit and that would also serve as a place
for the trucks to turn around if they would to do that.
Given the alternatives that we considered, what do we
recommend is done with the sewer? Again, I want to show you the map that
was generated from your mapping system showing the interceptor and
tributary collector sewers. You can see all the bends as it snakes down
through the hollow. The first aspect of this project would be that we
would line the interceptor and tributary collector sewers using
cured-in-place pipe. The major advantage is that (1) it can be lined
through existing access structures, therefore, minimal disruption due to
digging, and (2) it can snake down through the sewer system and we can
line very long reaches of the sewer in different shots. We would
rehabilitate the manholes and coat for corrosion protection. As you can
see in the photo on the left, several of the manholes in the sewer system
are similar to the pipe that in that they have corroded and the concrete
material inside the manhole is corroded. So we would propose to fix that
up and stabilize that and make sure it's a good sound structure and then
coat it with an epoxy coating, very similar to an epoxy coating, to
protect it from corrosion in the future.
Improve access for maintenance. Again, work very
closely with the Parks Department to assure that it is done to incorporate
in with the existing park trails that are around West Lafayette. Lastly,
to stabilize the interceptor using one of the three methods I outlined
before.
No project comes without impacts. We believe that the
impacts for this project will be relatively short term impacts and it
would mostly be related to construction activities. There would be some
clearing of trees in the park, but again, we will work very closely with
the Parks Department to make sure that we are not taking down any old
growth trees or any important trees. Again, we would try to minimize the
disturbance during construction. We feel those impacts are greatly offset
by the benefits that would occur. The main benefit being that we extend
that interceptor life. Essentially, we will create a new pipe, a new sewer
system within Happy Hollow Park, which would reduce the risk of
interceptor failure in the future due to corrosion or instability. Lastly,
would be an enhanced post-project use of the trail. With that recap of the
project, I'm going to turn it back over to Rick and he'll talk about
financing and then finally, take any questions you may have about the
project.
Mr. Erhardt said the estimated cost for the project to
rehabilitate the Happy Hollow interceptor and the tributary collector
sewers within Happy Hollow Park is $3.7 million. We are proposing that
West Lafayette continue to use low interest State Revolving Fund financing
for this project. This is the same method of financing that was used for
the treatment plant upgrade and for the River Road interceptor projects.
The SRF financing entails a below market interest rate of 2.9% over twenty
years. The first two years of interest are zero. The financing for the
cost of this project was included as part of the stepped sewer rate
increase that was approved by the Council in May of this year and that
became effective this month. A portion of that rate increase goes toward
the rehabilitation of this important sewer. Currently, the rates that just
became effective this month, the average sewer bill for approximately
5,000 gallons is about $13.75. When the next two increases become
effective, which would be the third increase by 2002, the month bill for
5,000 gallons would be about $15.15 and that takes into account this
project and other planned capital improvements by the City of West
Lafayette Wastewater Utility. With that I would like to conclude the
public hearing and open this up for questions. We are recording these
comments and we are required by the Indiana Department of Environmental
Management to submit a transcript with our application for funding, so I
would ask everybody who speaks to please state their name before they
state their question or comment.
Mayor Margerum said is there anyone who would like to
ask a question?
Paul Howell, TV18, just out of curiosity, the CIPP that
he showed us, it looks like you are going to cut down on flow a little
bit. How much flow are you going to lose. There is no loss of flow?
Mr. Erhardt said that is correct, there is no loss of
flow. The new pipe will be much smoother than the old pipe. It is only
about a quarter-inch in diameter, so the flow capability of the pipe will
be equal to and possibly even greater than the existing pipe.
James Williams, 2241 Sandpiper Court North, said the
rate increase that you had there on your graphic from July of this year to
2002, that's a 10.2% increase. Is that in addition to the increase that
was voted earlier this year or does that include this?
Mayor Margerum said no, that's a cumulative.
City Attorney Bauman said there were three steps of 4%,
5%, and 5%. That was what was already proposed and adopted and that, at
the time they discussed financing of this project, as well as future wet
weather treatment at the treatment plant. The financing for that is all in
this projected set of steps.
Mayor Margerum said so there wouldn't be any increase
in what had already been proposed.
Councilor Sparby said could not there actually be a
change in this rates so they could actually end up being less? Isn't there
a new plan being drawn up since there was an error in the one that was
presented to the Council?
City Attorney Bauman said it could be less, it could be
more if the project came in over budget, but we think, the best estimate
of the professionals involved, is that these rates should be enough to
cover the projects that are planned and that is what was already adopted.
It is not proposed at this time to have any increases in addition to that.
Councilor Keen said my first question is, do you know
how long the current interceptor has been in place? You've stated here
that this process, CIPP process, will extend the life of that system. Can
you give me an idea of the useful life of the extension?
Mr. Erhardt said the life of the interceptor was
constructed in either the late 50s or 60s, the late 50s. The lining for
this is expected to extend the life another 30 to 40 years.
Mayor Margerum said what was the date, Mr. Snyder [City
Engineer]?
City Engineer Snyder said I think that the date of the
current was about 1957, which makes it about 43 years old. It is concrete
pipe, by the way. I want to make that clear to everybody. The new epoxy
cured-in-place is a much better material as far as corrosion.
Mr. Erhardt said many times a sewer pipe is considered
to have a life of about 40 to 50 years, so this is expected to effectively
double the life of the pipe. Even though the lining of this is an
expensive process, it's much less expensive than it would be to replace
the pipe and much less disruptive to the park.
Councilor Keen said the exterior of the pipe, you have
stated there is some corrosion and other problems. Was anything in this
process going to be done to rehabilitate the exterior of the pipe as well
as the interior? I'm assuming this CIPP process is only for the interior
of the pipe.
Mr. Erhardt said that is correct. There was no
inspection done or no reason to believe that the exterior of the pipe that
was done. You might have been thinking of the manholes. We had a separate
picture of that. Those, in fact, do show corrosion and we are planning to
do rehabilitation and line the manholes themselves. The exterior of the
pipe, we don't think anything was done. Typically, nothing happens to the
exterior and we are not planning to do anything to that.
John Bloodgood, 116 Seminole Dr., said What happens to
the gaskets that have dropped down and gone away?
Mr. Erhardt said the gaskets, this sock lining that we
showed, this is a continuous lining. When the hot water is run through
this, it will cause the sock to expand and to fill the inside of the pipe
and the hot water will cause this to cure. It looks like a fiberglass
lining. This will be one continuous piece. They will clean the pipe first
so any loose gaskets that are in the way or any material will be cleaned
and this will form, in essence, a continuous pipe. There will be no joints
there, so there is no need to do anything with the joints.
Mr. Bloodgood said has this system been used for some
period of time? Is it possible to look at something that's been in place
for ten years?
Mr. Erhardt said yes, it's been used for more than ten
years, I think it goes back at least 15, if not 20 years. Indianapolis,
many other cities have used this method to line pipes. There are examples
where this has been seen. I see there's a gentleman, Furman Smith has a
comment there.
City Attorney Bauman said while you are on that point,
if Mike [WWTU Director Darter] could come up, I think he can outline where
it's been used here in our community.
WWTU Director Darter said we have slip lined State
Street between River Road and the Speedway Station. That was done in 1993
or 1994. We just lined another line that was on . . .
City Engineer Snyder said on Sycamore Lane, was the
first one and there is one at the part of Happy Hollow that runs between
Thornbush and . . .
WWTU Director Darter said we have used it in at least
three different spots in the City of West Lafayette and we are very
satisfied with it.
Furman Smith, West Lafayette, said we at Lilly [Eli
Lilly Company, Tippecanoe Laboratories] have used this process for about
15 years. We have lined all of the storm sewers in the entire plant. We
helped develop the techniques several years ago. We have also done it with
manholes. We actually increased the flow because, as you said, the surface
is very smooth, even where there are breaks in the pipe, when the material
goes through it fits real tight so the break ends up being fairly smooth.
You don't have infiltration and you don't have exfiltration. It is a very
slick process. The thing they didn't say is it's very fast. Instead of
taking a year or two years to do it, you can do in months.
Councilor Satterly said what do you do with the flow in
the pipe while you are putting that sock in it?
Mr. Erhardt said I believe segment by segment they will
bypass pump around the pipe.
Councilor Satterly said bypass the flow around?
Mr. Erhardt said that is correct. This will be done
manhole to manhole, segment by segment. They will bypass pump from manhole
to manhole to allow this to be done.
Mayor Margerum said are there any other questions?
Councilor O'Callaghan said what is the timeline that
you are thinking about for this?
Mr. Erhardt said we would estimate that this would,
just very roughly speaking, be in the order of six to nine months at most.
There were no further comments.
Mayor Margerum said I will declare that that is the
completion of the public hearing. I would like to thank Rick and Paul. I
think it was very useful for the Council. The reason we wanted to do it at
the Council meeting was so anyone who was listening at home would have a
chance to hear the presentation also. If there are any other questions
from anyone here or anyone that's listening to the program, they should
contact City Hall and we will get those questions answered.
FINANCIAL REPORT: Councilor Sparby moved that the
financial report be approved as distributed. Motion was seconded by
Councilor Satterly and passed viva-voce.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
Ordinance No. 14-00 An
Ordinance to Annex Certain Lands into the City of West Lafayette (McAlister)
(Prepared by the City Attorney) Councilor Sparby read the ordinance and
moved that Ordinance No. 14-00 be approved and the vote be by roll call.
Motion was seconded by Councilor O'Callaghan.
Mayor Margerum said is there an amendment to this?
City Attorney Bauman said yes. The amendment was to
correct a typographical error in the legal description. We have also
added, for informational purposes which will be needed by the County
Auditor's Office, the current key numbers for the parcels involved. But it
is not substantive.
Councilor Sparby moved the ordinance be amended as
redistributed. Motion was seconded by Councilor O'Callaghan and the vote
was AYE.
Dan Teder of Reiling, Teder, and Schrier said I
represent the developers in this case. The developers are the ones wanting
to, obviously, develop the site. They are not the present owners of the
property or the present owners involved in the annexation, but I want to
describe not only the annexation to you tonight, but also the proposed
development. I've done this a few times at caucus, so bear with me if I go
through it again, if that's OK. [Moved to aerial map] Again, just for the
site, for those people in the audience that aren't familiar with it. This
is Lindberg Road. This is McCormick Road. The annex property is that that
I have in yellow. This tract here, going around here, through here, down
here, and back around. The first tract is the PSI substation. The second
little sliver in here is owned by the church, which is located here. This
property down here is the Simmons property. This property here is the
McAlister property. Finally, this property here is the Bogan property.
This property was approved for rezoning from R1 to R3 at the recent County
Commissioners meeting. This property and this property here are not being
rezoned. They are staying at their present zoning classification. This
property here, the McAlister property, received a 7 YES to 5 NO vote from
the Area Plan Commission and was then defeated at the County Commissioners
meeting. This property here, the Bogan's property, is to be rezoned from
R1 to R3 and it has presently been continued, but is on the Area Plan
Commission list, which will occur, I believe, a week from Wednesday.
Additionally, as we have power lines located along here, which I think are
important when I talk about the development side of it, as well as the PSI
power station. Blackbird single-family homes are down in this area. The
Blackbird apartments are in this area. We have more apartments down here.
As you are well aware, Lindberg is going to be improved in the next year
or so. This aerial doesn't show it, but there is a King project, I think
it is Midas Development is his corporate name or legal name for this. This
has been partially constructed and I think he is waiting on the final
aspects of the American Suburban Utility to come through. There is an
easement through here going back to that for sewer from American Suburban.
The developer has optioned the McAlister tract and the
Bogan tract obviously to do a development on this project, basically,
apartment development. The reasons for the annexation are rezoning. From
the developer's standpoint, police and fire, we'd like to have West
Lafayette police and fire protection, and we would like to have West
Lafayette sewer. We do have American Suburban there, but we would like to
have the other amenities of West Lafayette and to come into West
Lafayette. Without the rezoning to this project, we may or may not be in
West Lafayette. We will still have American Suburban and we won't have a
site that's developed. Obviously, that's not what the developers wish to
have and it doesn't follow through with what we are doing at this point.
Tonight, as I've indicated to you in caucus a couple of times, I want you
not only to consider the annexation, but when you look at your annexation
vote, to also realize that we want to come back with a rezoning of the
property. This is almost in acquiescence to that rezoning. In the prior,
we've gone from R1 to R3. When you go from a R1 to R3 or any zoning of
that type, you zone it to a particular zone. R3 allows apartments. It
doesn't say how many apartments or how few apartments, what the amenities
will be or not be. We believe that rather than doing it that way, what
we'd like to do is come back and do a planned development for you. That
would still be a rezoning and the rezoning would still be apartments. But
in that regard, I'll go back again to the map for this, if we do a planned
development, the entrance will be here along McCormick. It would be that
for the rezoning. There would be no access along Lindberg in either one of
these cases. That was also the case for the rezoning. We anticipated about
14-something units per acre for the rezone. If we did the planned
development, it would be less than that, perhaps around 14. This would be
input from the Area Plan Commission as to what they would like before we
know exactly what that is. So we can't tell you exactly, but it would be
more in the 14 range. We would also contemplate that there would be more
greenspace to the site and other amenities, perhaps a clubhouse, things of
that nature. A walking trail might occur in the planned development that
wouldn't necessarily occur in the rezoning. But I think most important in
the planned development is what you see is what you get. In the rezoning,
it can change obviously within that classification. The planned
development we are going to go through Area Plan Commission. We're going
to have, basically, final, detailed plans approved which will then come
before you. Those plans, what you see when you vote on those plans, is
what you are going to get. Those cannot substantially change. There can be
some minor adjustments, but nothing as far as where the buildings lie, the
number of buildings, the amenities to it. All those things would stay in
place. So you would know exactly what you are going to get. Additionally,
then we would be getting West Lafayette sewer, which is important to us.
We would be giving additional property taxes which I think would be
important to the City of West Lafayette. We think that the annexation is
going to coincide, we can make our planned development coincide, with the
annexation. We would start the planned development, perhaps, a month or
two down the road. I think the annexation would finish sometime in
January, perhaps February. I'll let Mr. Bauman be more specific, as he
knows with the new ordinance it's hard to tell on that. I think that's the
general time frame. We would then have the planned development follow that
a month or so and come back before you after we finish through the Area
Plan Commission to have you then vote on the planned development at that
particular point. Our density, in our opinion, with Blackbird versus us,
is similar. I think they're about 13 units per acre. We would be about 14
units per acre. The occupancy of the Blackbird, and these are the
apartments, is 65% student and 35% other. We believe our mix would be the
same as that. We've talked to the owners of that, as I indicated at
caucus. They told us that when they initially did it, it was 35% students
and 65% other and now it has switched to 65% / 35% and we have no reason
to believe that ours would be any different. We think ours would be the
same as that. No access on Lindberg. Our access would only be McCormick.
Where we lie on McCormick, I think, gives a good safety buffer from the
intersection. McCormick is the road that the people are going to use. I
keep stressing this, and I know Blackbirds concerned and they are here
this evening. Our impact on Blackbird single-family, in my opinion, is
going to be minimal. We are going to have straight shot to the campus. I
think those people that are students that are living in our facility are
going to go on McCormick straight through to campus. The other people that
are nonstudents are going to go north, perhaps to SR 52 to some of the
businesses out there or perhaps west on the new developments coming out on
Lindberg and Klondike. There's neighborhood business in there and I
contemplate a lot of those people will come out there. There will be some
use of Lindberg Road, I don't deny that, but I don't think that's going to
be the impact. I don't think we're going to be the major impact or an
impact substantially on the Blackbird single-family homes. I think the
impact will come from the other development that is presently underway
there. Additionally, McCormick Road, we checked with the County Engineer's
Office and the car use on a daily basis is between 1,200 cars and 3,700
cars a day. The capacity for McCormick Road is approximately 12,000 cars a
day. So I think McCormick Road easily has the capacity to handle this
particular development. We would respectfully request your approval of the
annexation and we'd be happy to answer any questions. Alan White is one of
the developers along with Shane O'Malley and Mike O'Malley and Alan is
present this evening and would be happy to answer any questions. Thank you
very much.
Councilor Sparby said I know that this ordinance was
originally presented at our last month's meeting and it was postponed
pending the results of the rezoning request that was before the County
Commissioners which was to rezone this property from R1 to R3 and they did
decline to rezone this property. And I know much to Mr. Teder's chagrin,
he was not here last Council meeting, but at that time, and I refer to the
minutes of the meeting, I specifically asked Mr. White if the rezoning was
denied, will you withdraw your request for annexation? Mr. White said
"Yes, we are basically requesting the landowners who we have an
option with. I think it has been made clear that if the R3 zoning does not
pass, then we would not be buying the land and then, therefore, the
individuals would probably withdraw the request since there would be no
development."
Mr. White said the landowners, in speaking at the last
Council meeting, our option period with those landowners expired after it
coincided with the County Commissioners meeting. So at the time, I didn't
have the ability to say that these landowners would still want to annex or
if they would grant us an extension on the options. So the time that has
passed since the County Commissioners meetings we have met with the two
landowners who we had options with. After much discussion, they have
agreed, knowing full well in this instance that if the planned development
is denied after the annexation period ends, that they would have no choice
but to be annexed into the City. So they have agreed that that would be
acceptable to them and then, therefore, have agreed to extend our option
period to grant us the time that we did not have before to allow the
annexation process to happen. And that is the reason we are able to come
back today.
Councilor Sparby said I know I had inquired before when
the Police Chief was here about our police protection because that's one
of the things you are interested in. I know he has stated that he does not
see this as a problem, but I personally look at the territory, the amount
of land out there and the access and, given the number of patrol cars we
typically have on the street, I have real concerns that we would be able
to provide adequate service without increasing.
Mr. White said at the last caucus meeting, that was
addressed and it was answered by the Police Chief. I don't know if
anyone's here that wants to speak to that.
Councilor Sparby said I believe that is correct, that
there are three to four patrol cars per shift.
Deputy Chief Leroux said on a typical shift there are
three to five cars on the road, except during our overlap period. All I
can say on that matter is for the last couple years we've come to the
Council requesting more manpower. We have a five-year plan that has
requested more manpower and we've not gotten any of the manpower. We feel
we will do the best job that we can possibly do on this project or any
other. We will continue to provide the best service we can.
Councilor Sparby said I am quite aware of that. Would
you not agree it's probably going to put a lot more strain on the
department given the current manpower?
Deputy Chief Leroux said I think any future development
is going to put a lot more strain on our manpower.
Councilor Sparby said OK, thank you.
Mayor Margerum said I would add that that is part of
the annexation process to do that evaluation as to what is required and
what is additional, and that is a requirement.
City Attorney Bauman said that would be at the next
step. This vote tonight would not be final.
Councilor Windler said assuming everything flows
according to plan here, when will these apartments open up?
Mr. Teder said I think we're probably looking at the
end of next year, would you not say, Alan? The earliest would be December
2001, January 2002, in that range.
Councilor Windler said OK, most likely the full student
occupancy, because being a Purdue student, I know that most students rent
at that time for the next year, so you probably will not reach full
capacity until the following academic year.
Mr. Teder said I think we will be lucky to be completed
in that period of time to take care of the students and the other people.
Perhaps some of the building would be done at that time. I would think
that it is more likely that part of the project might be completed with
the rest of it being occupied toward the summer, toward that fall
semester.
Councilor Windler said the reason I asked was with the
timing of the Lindberg Road project and the timing of your project, I was
wondering exactly how much traffic will be coming out of your development,
if it comes to fruition, to the point that when we complete the Lindberg
Road project. I'm wondering if those projects will have an overlap point.
There is obviously a concern with Lindberg Road going under construction.
The Blackbird Farms people will be forced onto McCormick and I think
that's part of the concern is that they are worried about using McCormick
at the same time as the people living in your development. But, I think if
we compare the time lines a little bit, we will realize that we might be
near the completion of the Lindberg Road project by the time your
development reaches capacity.
Mr. Teder said I can't give you an exact time with the
PD and everything else that's going into this case, but I would anticipate
that some of it would be done in that January time frame. The PD takes a
long time to do and there's always a snag or two. I think I'm being
optimistic to say that we can be back here in January or February. It may
be a little later than that. That seems to be the shortest time frame to
run about six months for the planned development phase of it, then you
still have to go through the construction and all that phase. So, January
to me, I would look at as being a partial development, with full
development being that summer, which would be the summer of 2002.
Councilor Windler said can I ask the City Engineer,
what is the anticipated time line on the Lindberg Road project? When is
that going to get started? When is it going to get completed?
City Engineer Snyder said we've got a couple of tough
pieces of right-of-way to finish out yet, but INDOT, who consults with us,
that October, November is a possible setting of the bid date for
construction. Again, to quote Mr. Teder, there's always another hitch or
two that you haven't considered and the project will take about two to two
and one half years, depending on how much work they can do during the
winter. The Lindberg Road project is unique in that a big portion of it is
just hauling fill dirt and that's in the center of the project. Then each
end is flat-work, concrete pavement, which theoretically could be done at
the same time in good weather or not. That will be up to the contractor to
decide the scheduling. But I'd say you are looking at at least two years,
maybe a little more. I might add that, even if the timing is precisely the
opening of this apartment, the number of trips in and out of the apartment
probably isn't going to put too much strain on McCormick Road. It has
recently been repaved for one thing, and I think you get a lot more
traffic from the county developments beyond this apartment project.
Councilor Mills said the Bogan property rezone will go
before APC the week after next, is that what you said? Or next week?
[Referring to Mr. Teder or Mr. White]
Mr. Teder said it was continued from whenever, I can't
remember now, to the next meeting, yes.
Councilor Mills said do you plan to leave that as R1 to
R3?
Mr. Teder said no, that would be part of the planned
development and would then withdraw that rezoning petition.
Councilor Mills said OK. I know I've been an outspoken
opponent all this time. I appreciate your willingness to do the planned
development. It makes a big difference, I think, to me personally and how
I view the whole development. I know from seeing other planned
developments come before Area Plan, there are real specifics on density
and greenspace and amenities and everything. I appreciate the fact that
you are willing to go that way.
Mr. Teder said thank you.
Councilor Keen said I'd like to ask how does this
project or this development, annexation fit within the long-term plan for
Wabash Township?
Mr. Teder said I don't know that they've asked for a
long-term plan for Wabash Township. I don't believe that that has been
implemented. Again, maybe Mr. Bauman can answer that portion of it.
City Attorney Bauman said that was recently requested
again, at the City's initiative, and the Commissioners concurred with
that. The Mayor, about five years ago requested that before, and the
Commissioners at that time apparently didn't want planning to occur out
there and so that has been delayed unfortunately. So there really isn't an
updated plan.
Mr. Teder said the only plan in existence right now is
the 1980 Land Use Plan, is my understanding. That Land Use Plan was put in
effect when there were no sewers and when Purdue University was building
dormitories for their students, so a great deal has changed since 1980. I
don't think that plan is really applicable to the Wabash Township area.
Councilor Keen said I believe that earlier this year,
this Council has reviewed or agreed to allow the Wabash Township people to
work with them, or whatever, on some kind of a plan.
Mayor Margerum said the request the Council had was a
resolution which asked Area Plan Commission to set up a planning procedure
and to look at the whole Wabash Township. The County Commissioners also
passed that same resolution and I think that all the Wabash Township
people were in agreement that that did need to be done. So it was a
resolution to the Area Plan Commission.
Councilor Keen said that is what I was referring to. My
point being, has any thought been given to or whatever little planning may
have been done to this point since earlier this year, how is this project
going to fit within that or has anybody even had contact with any of those
people who are doing that planning?
Mr. Teder said I don't think there has been any
implementation of that plan whatsoever. I think some people in Wabash
Township have been willing to assist the Area Plan Commission and I think
the Area Plan Commission has said they may look at it in the future.
City Attorney Bauman said to clarify, if this is
annexed into the City, it will become part of the City planning process
and the City Council here would have final decision on any zoning or
rezoning. So in a way that will remove it from the planning process of the
unincorporated portion of the township. Again, it would then be supported
by the infrastructure and services of the City.
Mr. Teder said you've got to realize, we have the
American Suburban Sewer there and we've chosen, or are trying to choose,
or asked to come into the City of West Lafayette to get West Lafayette
sewer and to get West Lafayette police and fire. Again, I concur with Mr.
Bauman, it takes it out of that realm, but it also takes it out of the
concern that Wabash Township had, with regard to their fire. I don't know
if the police was a concern that was mentioned, but the fire was one.
Whereas now, it would be something that potentially could come under West
Lafayette fire, which we think is positive for everyone.
Councilor Satterly said Dan [Teder], if you don't get
the annexation, would you go with American Suburban and ask for a planned
development from the County Commissioners?
Mr. Teder said I don't know if we've addressed that
yet. I guess that would be a consideration to make. American Suburban is
there and that would be a likely alternative. But I don't think we have
addressed that at this point. The developers would like to come under West
Lafayette.
Councilor Satterly said you've got to wait one year
before you can ask for a rezone to R3, but you could go in immediately
with a planned development.
Mr. Teder said the planned development is a different
rezoning. The R1 to R3 would be probably, on that specific property, and
I'm doing this pretty loosely, if we added a little more property, we
could probably come back in under an R1 to an R3, perhaps. If we changed
it, perhaps we could change the look of the site, perhaps that would be
enough to get over that hurdle. Otherwise, we have to go for a different
zoning classification and PD would fit into that different zoning
classification to do that.
Councilor O'Callaghan said then it would be the County
Commissioners that would have that decision as opposed to the City
Council.
Mr. Teder said if we were not going to annex, yes.
Councilor O'Callaghan said that's one thing that's
really changed for me from the last meeting is that at the last meeting
where this was proposed, the County Commissioners were going to address it
in the very near future, within the next couple of weeks. It seemed
reasonable for us to wait and see what they were going to do and then we
can decide what we wanted to do. And now that you've come back with a
planned development, and this body would be the one that would do the
annexation and would consider the rezone, I think it makes a lot more
sense and I'm much more in favor of it in the way it is being presented
now.
Mr. Teder said this body would then have all the
control of that eventually.
Councilor Cohen said Dan [Teder], when you talked about
density and comparison of density, I think that one thing you brought up
before and didn't bring up tonight was that the densities were compared
without the lake being counted.
Mr. Teder said I brought up that in caucus. To me, in
order to compare one density to another, if you take the lake out of
Blackbird then they are about 13 apartments to the acre, where we would be
about 14. We think we will be 14, in that range. We may be less than that
when we finish with the planned development.
Jim Lewis, who identified himself as a West Lafayette
resident and owner of Mr. and Mrs. Tire, said my concern is, I've heard
about the police protection, but I'm concerned also about the fire
protection because I've had conversations with Chief Ron Ford. In our
conversations, when you start annexing, then he says we're going to have
to have more fire stations and more personnel, which is quite a large
capital expenditure, which is more than what the tax revenue would
generate from this particular annexation. I think that if you had a
station and apparatus and personnel to provide the coverage that we need
in this City, that you are looking over $1 million as an original
investment plus ongoing expenses with the personnel replacement and
equipment. I wonder if Chief Ford could address that?
Mayor Margerum said I would be glad to have him do
that, but I do want to remind people that that is part of the evaluation
that has to done for the annexation of all of these. So it is a little
premature, but answer it the best you can, but it's rather premature
before annexation takes place.
Fire Chief Ford said at Pre-Council the other evening,
I addressed the issue that we are presently covering the Blackbird Farms
area. The trucks move from the east down Lindberg Road and move part of
the way down McCormick Road to the southwest corner to cover the Blackbird
Farms. This is within the range to move it to the north just about the
same distance. However, we make approximately four runs a day, about 1,200
runs a year, averaging about 20 minutes per run. It's definitely going to
increase the workload, but I really feel that we can handle it.
Patricia Mason, Wabash Township Trustee, said I
personally don't care whether you annex this or not, but the phone at my
office was ringing today with the implications from some of the statements
that had been made that they wanted City fire protection because the
Wabash Township fire protection was inadequate. I want to clarify the
statement that the Wabash Township Fire Department is a professional
department. It is equivalent to the City department or we would not have
the LSO ratings that we have. The developer has not made contact with me
nor the fire chief about the capabilities of the Township providing
protection for that area. I don't want you just annexing it because you
feel sorry for him because he's not going to get adequate fire protection
from us. He would get certainly adequate fire protection. There is a lot
of planning going on in Wabash Township as to what we're going to do with
the Cumulative Fund, where we are going to build the new fire station. So
there is a lot of planning going on. The other thing is, I might note, the
American Suburban rate increase that just went through last year is
approximately $60 a month for sewer service, versus your $15 a month. So
he's going to save a whole lot of money by going with you. American
Suburban is supposed to go even higher. So he's going to take your
capacity instead of their capacity at one-fourth the cost. But I just want
to clarify that the township fire department is certainly adequate and we
could protect the area adequately. Thank you.
Furman Smith, Wabash Township Advisory Board, said
there is a credibility problem that was either at the last meeting you had
or the meeting before where you were talking about the sewer line. We are
talking about another development that was being approved out past this
area. You are dealing with the old West Lafayette Regional Sewer District.
When that got approved, it was said in this Council meeting that that
would fill up that sewer line and there would be no capacity left for any
more development. Now here you are coming along again with this proposal
for a lot of additional units, or a lot more sewage and according to the
statement you made last month or two months ago, there is no capacity. I
think you need to take that into effect.
City Attorney Bauman said I think I can address that.
You are apparently not very well informed about how the sewers lay out
there. The capacity problem has to do with the lift station and the force
main from the old Regional Sewer District area. This would go into the
Blackbird lift station. That's a separate lift station. It also has a
separate force main all the way back into the West Lafayette gravity
system. In that respect, those two are completely separate. The statement
was concerning the lift station and force main from the Regional Sewer
District area.
Mr. Smith said OK. Another issue you need to think
about is this is only one development of about six or seven that have been
approved in the last six or eight months out in the same area. So we start
talking about traffic and what's on McCormick Road now. You also have to
look at what's going to be on McCormick Road, say, 12 months from now,
whether this development goes or not. It is going to increase rapidly.
There is a lot of development that was already approved and some of is it
under construction. So you need to look at are these roads adequate,
especially when you take Lindberg Road out of the system for two to two
and a half years. That's a real problem. The other issue, I'm sure the
people in Blackbird Farm will address, is this is probably going to end up
being students. Is this really the job of West Lafayette or the Township,
either one, to build dorms for students? Or should this be a Purdue job?
They at least provide some support.
Councilor Windler said I think we would all be thrilled
if Purdue were to increase their housing capacity, but we have limited
control over that and that has been said time and time again.
James Williams, 2241 Sandpiper Court North, said I'm
the President of the Blackbird Farms Homeowners Association. I represent
170 households. At one of our earlier meetings that we had this spring, we
had Captain Marvin from the Police Department out to address formation of
a Neighborhood Watch. One of the questions he was asked at that meeting
concerned speeding on Lindberg Road. One of the explanations that he gave
that explained why a lot of times we don't see a lot of patrol cars is
that he says, right now, there is not enough manpower in the department,
with all sectors that they have to cover, to provide good coverage. So if
we add additional apartments and everything out in that area, then there
is going to be a question about adequate police coverage. Not just in that
area, but elsewhere in the City. Councilor Sparby addressed the meeting
minutes from the last time where Mr. White said that he thought that there
would not be any development or any annexation if R3 was turned down. They
gave reasonable explanation on why they got that extension, but why we are
here now is because annexation and approval of this proposed planned
development would still enable the petitioner to build a high-density
apartment complex in the area. The residents and taxpayers of Wabash
Township and the Fourth District oppose the R3 rezone request that was
before the Commissioners for this property. The County Commissioners
agreed with us and turned down the R3 zoning, in effect saying that
another high-density apartment complex is inappropriate for this area.
According to the definitions of housing density formulated by the Area
Commission staff, high-density housing is that which has greater than 9.0
units per acre. The proposed planned development that Mr. Teder talked
about is for about 14 units per acre. This is less than the original
request, but it is still a density that would qualify as R3, and R3 has
been turned down as being inappropriate in this area. The 14 units per
acre proposed by the petitioner is greater than the density of the
neighboring Blackbird Farms apartments, with or without the pond acreage
in the calculation. Not including the nine acre pond, Blackbird's density
is 10.3 units per acre, which is much less than 14. That difference of
four units per acre when applied across this entire parcel is going to
mean an extra 40 apartments or at least two or three additional buildings.
Developing more apartments here significantly impacts the 2015
transportation plan. The daily traffic count on McCormick Road is already
63% greater than projected for the year 2000 in the 2015 plan. Because of
multiple trips per vehicle per day, one vehicle in any given traffic zone
will add many times that number to a traffic count. If this project is
approved, the 2015 data for the traffic zone 147, which sits in where the
proposal is, the 2015 data will be exceeded by 75% for housing units and
by nearly 100% for the number of vehicles. That's 15 years ahead of time
of the 2015 plan. This development alone would increase the McCormick Road
traffic volume count by more than 1,000 vehicles a day because it is not
just a destination, but it is a point of origin. McCormick Road is narrow,
has no shoulder, and it has considerable foot and bicycle traffic. It will
be the only route out of Blackbird Farms for two years when Lindberg is
being reconstructed. Everybody in that portion of the County is going to
have to use McCormick Road. This proposed apartment complex would do
little or nothing to stop conversion of homes to rentals in the areas
around campus. Those conversions are spurred by landlords who can claim
that their properties are within walking distance of campus and the
Village. This proposed development is not within walking distance and so
would not appeal to those renters who would otherwise wish to live near
State Street. Also, more than 2,500 apartment units have been approved and
begun construction within five miles of campus in the last 12 months.
Because Purdue is going to cap it's enrollment around 38,000, the
immediate housing crisis is passing at this time. Another high-density
apartment complex is thus not needed at this time. The major land use in
this area has been single-family homes and moderate-density apartments,
the King property not withstanding. This proposed annexation and planned
development is simply a ploy to gain permission to build high-density
apartments at a time when they are not needed in an area where they are
not compatible with existing uses. The laundry list of problems associated
with this proposed development includes density concerns, traffic
concerns, police and fire service concerns. It will negatively impact
nearby property values and home resale prospects. This project will hinder
W.H. Long's ability to sell the remaining empty lots in Blackbird Farms
which are within sight of this project. The occupancy demographic of this
complex would bring more noise and potentially more crime to an area of
family residences and public recreation. Not enough firm details have been
offered about this project. Two-story buildings, three-story buildings,
how many buildings? Where will they be located? What kind of greenspace?
Will there be noise abatement features? What will be done with the storm
water run off? How will the City fund the extra police patrols that are
required? The long-term cost to the City will not be offset by sufficient
tax revenues brought in. With so much controversy and unanswered questions
attached to this project, why go ahead with this at this time? I want to
state that our Homeowners Association is not against all development or
against annexation. We are merely anti-inappropriate. This is not about a
tract of single-family homes or mixed use condos and townhouses. The
parcel of land that is in question here is well suited for duplexes or
4-unit townhomes such as those down on Anthrop Street just west of here.
Those type of developments would only add value to existing development
and would be greeted enthusiastically by area residents, but this project
is high-density apartments. You may find our stance ironic, what with the
Blackbird apartments in our backyard, but our association has joint
covenants with the apartments. They are occupied by a responsible, stable
demographic. We work together. One apartment complex, we can live with
that. The King property, which has been advertised as the ultimate in
college living, was foisted upon us several years ago and will be crowded
and noisy and generally not a very good neighbor. Two apartment complexes
leaves a rather sour taste in our mouths. A third apartment complex is not
a good thing at all and is just entirely too much to stand idly by and let
it happen. This Council adopted the resolution calling for a Wabash
Township land usage plan. I asked you to support the principle behind that
resolution, which is to curb unnecessary, opportunistic development. I
urge you to protect the Fourth District voters and taxpayers, those of us
who must live with the consequences of your decision here tonight. Take
the prudent course of action and deny this particular proposal until such
time as a more suitable development comes up or until the Wabash Township
land use plan is complete and then judge it in the bigger context. I will
answer any questions you may have if you like. Thank you.
Councilor Windler said you stated that Purdue has
decided to cap its enrollment at 38,000, but in a recent newspaper
article, President Beering was stated as saying that the ideal student
population was 38,000 to 41,000 or 42,000. Now he is famous for having
said back in the mid-80s that Purdue's ideal population was 32,000 to
34,000 and we are sitting at borderline 38,000. Now as a community that
has to deal with students, and as someone who represents a district that
is dominated by student rentals, how should I take that? Is that a warning
of expansion to come, and if so, shouldn't we plan for that?
Mr. Williams said you have a good point there. I don't
believe that any of the students went without housing in the past. And in
that same article that you reference, President Beering also said that the
local developers are already overbuilding too.
Councilor Windler said actually, students did go
without housing. We had to convert study rooms and lounges into living
quarters. Also married student housing had to be adopted for the incoming
freshman this last year. So we did have to go beyond the traditional. We
already had freshman and undergrads living in the graduate houses because
they had spare capacity and now we are beyond that. My concern is looking
five years down the future or even two years down the future, where are we
going to be? There are a lot of apartment complexes being built and not
all of them are for students. The population of Tippecanoe County is
growing. Anybody that lives here knows that. It is a planning issue for
me. We need this capacity, I think.
Councilor Cohen said what would be your feeling if
someone like Mike King got a hold of the property and does what he did to
the other piece of property? Because he's looking at another piece of
property in that area.
Mr. Williams said we would take the approach that we
are taking with this one. At the time that Mr. King had in 1995 with the
apartment complex he is building now, I don't think we were ready and I
don't think that people realized what the long term implications with that
would be. But now that we've seen that, I think we would take a similar
stance.
Councilor Cohen said but in this ordinance, what this
ordinance is doing, is annexing certain lands. It does not say a word
about what's going to be built on those lands. That's another part of what
may happen. We are presuming it's going to be, if it's annexed, that they
are going to try to put an apartment complex on there, but have not seen
those plans and it's to the benefit, I think of everyone who lives in that
area, for that area to be in the City. I think it is just better
protection for you in the long run.
Mr. Williams said that's right. We believe that sooner
or later all that land out there is probably going to be annexed. We are
concerned that annexing now is going to be construed as a go ahead to
build a large apartment complex and it will be difficult to sway the
developer otherwise. Until such time as we see a more detailed plan of
what they would like to put up here, I think there is no rush to annex
that land. They can't go back for R3 for that land within a year. I don't
think there is need for haste.
Councilor Cohen said except that it does take a long
time to annex property.
Mr. Williams said that's true.
Robert Eskew, Blackbird Farms, said Mr. Windler, I
believe you are being a little disingenuous. Classroom capacity at Purdue
University is maxed out. We can't take any more students beyond what we
now have. So that we are going to go to 40,000 means that some buildings
that aren't even requested in terms of funding to provide classroom space
will have to be built. So I don't think that's likely. It certainly is not
any time soon. Secondly, I don't believe anybody lived in a lounge for
very long. That's not new. The residence halls have tried to do that to
keep the rates reasonable for the students. They, somewhat like the
airlines, have people who say they are coming and don't come. So I don't
believe any student lived in a lounge or a study room for very long
because of the attrition that occurs at the beginning of school for the
freshman. One thing I'd like to point out to the Council, I'm one of the
people that does ride a bicycle on McCormick Road. From my seat three or
four feet above the road, I don't think it's going to last as it now
exists. There's a lot of bad cracking and other things because of the lack
of shoulders. You're going to have to spend some money on that during the
time the road is closed. During the time I ride my bicycle, I see a lot of
people in my subdivision walking their dogs, jogging on the roads. I see a
lot of Purdue students when school is in session. I think there is some
serious capacity problems for McCormick Road that you really haven't
addressed, that I think you have to if you are going to make it livable
out there during the time. Additionally, you found it very hard to keep
more than one lane open when we get snow. If we are looking at another
1,000 trips a day or more for the development, I think that we've got some
real serious capacity problems during the winter when it snows there. I
don't think you've addressed that either. We certainly don't need another
1,000 cars a day trying to make that trip when we have that kind of
weather. I think, as does Jim Williams, that you ought to wait until you
have a good plan in front of you that says this is what we are going to do
before you decide about this ordinance. I don't think there is any benefit
to us annexing this land and I think there is a lot of danger here.
Furthermore, Mr. Cohen, you said you don't know what's going to be here.
The only people who want this land annexed have brought you plans that
they are going to do 14 apartments per acre. So you know what's going to
happen and I think you are being disingenuous when you say you don't know
what it's going to be. Because they've come to you, they've asked for
annexation. They've asked for it for 14 units an acre and I think that's
what you are going to get and I think you know that, and I don't think you
ought to pretend that you don't.
Councilor Windler said if I could address the part
about Purdue's capacity. There was a series of articles printed in the
Purdue Exponent this year. The University has asked the State for
permission to do $273 million worth of upgrades or new construction of
buildings for the next three years. I think that included three new
buildings, but it's been a while since I read the article. So there will
be room for increased capacity at Purdue. On a side note, Professor Eskew,
I did take your class and I did enjoy it.
Mayor Margerum said are there any more questions? I
would remind you that the question is on annexation, but I think it is
fair to say what the other parts of it are, but the question here is
annexation. Are there any other questions?
Patricia Mason said I was at the Admissions Office
today with a daughter of a friend who is considering going to Purdue and
the lady there said that they were capping their enrollment at 38,000.
Mr. Teder said in everything that's being referred here
is negative, negative, negative, then let's stop building on North River
Road, or let's stop the construction on North River Road and South River
Road and let's stop all the apartments going down there. Don't issue any
building permits or occupancy permits because we don't have police. We
don't have fire protection. We don't have anything. I don't think that's
true. We are coming in as the Mayor said and some of you have said, with
an annexation. We are then going to come back with a planned development.
I'm assuming that planned development may be as much as 14 apartments to
the acre. Mr. Cohen, I don't know for sure because it's going to be looked
at at Area Plan Commission. They are going to ask for input from the City.
That may change. Where that's going to end up, I don't know. But if you go
back to 1980, we overbuilt apartments and from that time to present then
we were underbuilding apartments. Now we are going to perhaps be overbuilt
again and then we are going to be underbuilt. That's the cycle that we
have. The City of West Lafayette and Greater Lafayette, I've said this at
Area Plan, you've heard me, is one of the greatest places in the United
States to live and it's been a secret. No one has known about it and now,
in the last few years, everybody knows about it and everybody wants to
come here. They want to live in this town because it's a great place to
live. Those people that want to live in these apartments aren't all
students. They are a lot of people. Some people want to live in R2s and
all the development that people are talking about, those people aren't
here tonight. Somebody should tell those people to come to protect their
rights too. They have an opportunity to live. I think Mr. White said it
best. Where do you want these students and these people to go? Live in
Ohio? You want Purdue University. You want all the great things for this
City, but you don't want these people to live here. I think we can talk
about Patti Mason's comments. I never said that the Wabash Township Fire
Department was not a good department or a great department. I've never
made any comment in that regard. She's always indicated that when you go
out to Wabash Township, they can't take care of it or they don't want any
more development. Now if we are coming into the City, they don't want us
in the City either. Again, should we go to Ohio for all these people? I
don't think so. I think we are making a reasonable request for you. I
think when you look at the planned development, you are going to see the
police and fire aspect of it needs to be looked at. The fiscal aspect of
it needs to be looked at. It's going to be a process. It's going to take a
period of time. Just like the Levee is taking a period of time. Just like
any growth takes a period of time. I think it's something that's good for
West Lafayette. I think it's a reasonable request and I again, I would
respectfully request your favorable approval of this. Thank you very much.
Ordinance No. 14-00 Amended passed first reading, 5-2.
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Mayor Margerum said this is a long process. There are a
number of public hearings and public notices that are required under this.
Thank you all for coming. We appreciate that.
Ordinance No. 17-00 An
Ordinance to Enact a New West Lafayette City Code Chapter 83, Establishing
Requirements for Licensing of Peddlers (Prepared by the City Attorney)
Councilor Sparby read the ordinance in part and moved that Ordinance No.
17-00 be passed on second reading and the vote be by roll call. Motion was
seconded by Councilor O'Callaghan.
City Attorney Bauman said the ordinance [referring to
Ordinance No. 17-00 (Amended) which he had distributed] is to establish a
modern and effective regulation of two categories. One is the itinerate
merchants that come in and set up on a temporary basis and the other is
people who go door-to-door as peddlers. We have worked extensively with
the Police Department to try to set up something we believe that will be
effective and can be administered. One of the things, I think you've seen
this before, let me highlight some of the changes in the amendment. We've
added some definitions, both of the itinerate merchant and then the
peddler to separate those two things since, frankly, there's some
different requirements that apply to each of them. I think there's some
different goals we have in the regulation. We've also added the definition
of individual peddler to make it clear that we want to license and do
background checks and have the photo IDs as later provided of each
individual peddler. Then we have also defined a transient merchant. That
is someone who sells from a push cart moving around. What we've prepared
here is a proposal to simply outlaw that. I don't know that we have
anybody who's involved in that now. I know a few years ago we did have
someone who was involved in selling food from a push cart in the Village
area and I think that created both safety problems in terms of blocking
the sidewalks and I think there were also some serious concerns on the
health side on that. So the proposal would be simply to outlaw that. The
ordinance does require anyone who wants to be a transient merchant,
peddler, or an individual peddler to get a license. To do that they have
to submit background information, photograph. There is an opportunity,
then, for the Police Department to do a background check on that
individual. That individual, including the individual peddlers going
door-to-door, will have to have and wear a photo ID. As I said, there will
be a background check on them. The transient merchant, those who come in
and set up shop temporarily, I direct your attention to Section
83.04(j)(5), I'm reading from a different copy so I'm not sure what page
it's on in yours, but we have set up a number of requirements there not
only for liability insurance, but also to make sure that they have
permission from the landowner and to make sure that they have zoning
clearance for the activity and the location they are at. On the
violations, we've changed some of that. I think we discussed that before.
We are restricting the hours, then, for door-to-door peddling to 8:00 a.m.
to 8:00 p.m. We've provided a procedure for granting and denying licenses
and for suspension of licenses in the event of violation. There was some
discussion before on the provision for a merchant who intended to become
set-up from a permanent location. I think there was some concern that
anybody could say that they intended to do that and that that was,
perhaps, would be an unintended loophole. That's been taken out. The fine
has been restructured. Persons who attempt to sell without getting a
license, that is, to avoid and evade the entire regulatory procedure,
would be subject to a fine of $2,500. Other violations, such as somebody
soliciting too late and so forth, that's a $100 fine, the way it's drafted
anyway. I think that's a cursory outline of how we've fine tuned this
proposal since the last time you looked at it. It is a result of the work
session and the people who came and passed along some different thoughts.
It also was a result of input from the Police Department.
Councilor Keen moved that Ordinance No. 17-00 be
amended as presented. Motion was seconded by Councilor O'Callaghan and the
vote was AYE.
Councilor Sparby said in regard to Section 83.13, which
is the exemptions to licenses, it is saying the licensing requirement does
not apply to any person or organization that engages in the sale of goods,
wares, merchandise, food, subscriptions, or services from a permanent
location in Tippecanoe County. I'm just trying to get this clear in my
mind and don't mean to pick on Councilor Cohen, but let's say that he
decided he wanted to sell his salads from a cart, does that mean because
he has a permanent establishment already in Tippecanoe County that he
could go set up in a parking lot somewhere and sell his salads and would
not have to have a license?
City Attorney Bauman said I think it is written that it
would do that.
Councilor Cohen said I would have to have a license
from the Board of Health and I think that's what we, at least pertaining
to food product, that's what we were concerned about, was that they could
set up shop without any supervision or certification from the Department
of Health and Sanitation and they could more or less do what they wanted
to do and sell what they wanted to.
Councilor Sparby said but I think when we had met, my
other concern was that they had proof that they had permission from the
property owner and that they were complying with the zoning ordinance
because of a particular merchant that now does have a permanent
establishment. I'm afraid if we leave this in, then they can continue to
do what they've done in previous summers.
Councilor O'Callaghan said what that was intended for
was for sidewalk sales, wasn't it?
Councilor Cohen said and festivals.
City Attorney Bauman said no, I think we've resolved
one of the concerns that was raised. I think you need to decide whether
you have further concerns. It's unfortunate we did not get a chance to
discuss this further at Pre-Council. The changes that have been made, I
think, are pretty substantial. It is possible they need further discussion
and fine tuning before you are ready to make this final.
Councilor Sparby said I guess I would be willing to
propose a second amendment to this [Ordinance No. 17-00 (Amended)], that
under Section 83.13(a) that item (2) be stricken.
City Attorney Bauman said and the other items be
renumbered then?
Councilor Sparby said right. Then I think that would
take care of my concerns.
Mayor Margerum said would this include Taste of
Tippecanoe, wouldn't that be . . .
Councilor Sparby said that's a not-for-profit.
Mayor Margerum said OK.
City Attorney Bauman said I think one of the concerns
here is you could have, for example, a business location in the County and
then if you had door-to-door sales, this would simply exempt everyone and
you would no longer have, for example, the individual applications and
background checks of the individual peddlers. I can see where this may be
a loophole which defeats part of the purpose of the ordinance.
Councilor Sparby moved to amend Ordinance No. 17-00
under Section 83.13 Exemptions, part (a) item (2) be stricken and that the
remaining items be renumbered under that. Motion was seconded by Councilor
Windler.
Councilor O'Callaghan said it would not exclude
sidewalk sales, when people from a permanent location put them outside for
that.
City Attorney Bauman said let's go back and visit the
definitions. Go back and look at transient merchants. They talk about
transacting a temporary or transient business in the City. I would say if
the sidewalk sale occurs at a location where they have their store, then
it didn't meet that definition.
Councilor O'Callaghan said then they wouldn't need a
license anyway.
City Attorney Bauman said correct.
Mayor Margerum asked for the roll call vote on
Councilor Sparby's amendment. The amendment to Ordinance No. 17-00
(Amended) passed, 7-0.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said Counselor Bauman, because
of the length of the ordinance there are a number of very minor typos in
it, would you like to clean those up before the final reading?
City Attorney Bauman said I did make some changes that
you had requested before. Do you have some others?
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said my basic question is,
perhaps we can discuss it afterwards, I'm wondering if a word is missing
and some other things. If we could just spend a few minutes before we
prepare a final version.
Mayor Margerum said this is the first reading of this
ordinance.
Councilor O'Callaghan said this is the second reading,
actually.
Councilor Sparby said the second and final reading.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said Section 83.04(j)(5), second
sentence after the word "transient merchant," is there a word
missing? Or is that just simply an additional punctuation? In reading it
very quickly, I wasn't sure if you meant to have other things there.
City Attorney Bauman said I think that punctuation
comes out. I think there was some other verbiage in there that was taken
out.
Clerk-Treasurer Rhodes said OK, fine.
Councilor Windler said I would like to point out as far
as a matter of expediency goes, that there are already some door-to-door
salesmen visiting the student areas in West Lafayette. After the
discussion of the first reading of this, some of my classmates at Purdue
University had notified me that they are already being visited by
door-to-door merchants. As far as if we put this in action this month,
that gives us some time to prepare for, what I'm assuming, will be the
rush of door-to-door salesmen when the students return next month.
Whereas, if we pass it next month, that doesn't leave the City
administration much time to prepare for the arrival of people asking for
licenses and that kind of thing.
City Attorney Bauman said I think mechanically the
Police Department has a plan for how they would administer it, but I
assume they probably can't set that up in five minutes.
Councilor Sparby said is there a way we can go ahead
and take final reading on this and allow the Clerk-Treasurer to work with
you for any corrections as long as they are not substantive to the . . .
City Attorney Bauman said well I think once it's
passed, if we want to do that, we'll have to look at technical corrections
or whatever later.
Councilor Mills said like we are always doing for NUZO.
Mayor Margerum said is there anyone in the audience who
wishes to speak to this?
Amanda Martin said I was the Purdue student who was
attacked last August 4, to be exact. That's when they start. I was mainly
here tonight to thank people for actually taking into consideration about
us. Because it is a very hard thing. Purdue is a very popular university.
This happens, unfortunately, more than we like admit. The particular man
who attacked me had been to three other students' apartments prior to
knocking on my door. He wasn't able to commit his crime until he reached
mine because there was no third party in my apartment at that time. I hold
him responsible and the company responsible for not doing a thorough
background check or a background check at all. I think it is very
wonderful that the City is going to take that responsibility. It is too
bad that the companies themselves don't take it. I think that the
registration won't only help the residents of West Lafayette, but it will
also help the solicitors themselves. In case of an emergency, you know
where they are, how you can contact somebody for them, I'm assuming. If it
had just been in place a year ago, it wouldn't have happened to me and I
wouldn't have gone through all that I've gone through and my family and
the people that have cared about me wouldn't of had to go through it. I
wanted to thank the City for taking this into consideration and
everything. And also the Police Department did an absolutely wonderful
job. They went all the way to Indianapolis to get this man. They did more
than I could ever expect and I am so grateful. I am also very grateful to
Prosecutor Jennifer Gutwein and Judge Johnson. I think everyone bent over
backwards for me in particular. I really appreciate it. Thanks.
Mayor Margerum said thank you very much. I think,
certainly, what happened to you is what did spur this. We do appreciate
you bringing that to our attention. Thank you very much.
Councilor Windler moved to call the question.
There was no further discussion.
Ordinance No. 17-00 (Amended) passed second and final
reading, 7-0.
NEW BUSINESS
Ordinance No. 18-00 An
Ordinance to Set the Biweekly Salaries of the Elected Officials, City of
West Lafayette, Indiana for the Year 2001 (Prepared by the
Clerk-Treasurer) Councilor Sparby read the ordinance and moved that
Ordinance No. 18-00 be passed on first reading and the vote be by roll
call. Motion was seconded by Councilor Satterly.
There was no discussion.
Ordinance No. 18-00 passed first reading, 7-0.
Ordinance No. 19-00 An
Ordinance Fixing the Biweekly Salaries of Appointed Officers, Employees
and Members of the Police and Fire Departments of the City of West
Lafayette, Indiana for the year 2001 (Prepared by the Clerk-Treasurer)
Councilor Sparby read the ordinance by title only and moved that Ordinance
No. 19-00 be passed on first reading and the vote be by roll call. Motion
was seconded by Councilor Satterly.
Mayor Margerum said the salary schedule reflects a 3.5%
for all employees. There is a maximum and a minimum for each position. In
some cases, the maximum was increased. But the review and scoping of these
positions was done by me and the Human Resources Director before making
any additional increases, including comparison with a lot of other cities
and, especially, Lafayette. I think that it is very important for the City
to retain the flexibility of reorganizing and changing duties and
responsibilities in order to meet changing needs of the City. In summary,
the new employees will be to increase the Parking Enforcement Officers to
two full-time. We have 1.5 now. This will increase it to two full-time. A
half-time Records Clerk, which will partially free up some time for the
Police Department and an additional Patrol Dispatcher, which would be able
then to put one more officer on the street. I think by voting for this
ordinance, you are also voting to put another 1.5 officers on the street.
The maximum and minimum were changed for one particular Specialist Tech,
Special Services because there are two people in that position and one is
sort of the supervisor for the other. There will be an additional Code
Inspector, which will be in the Wastewater ordinance, but I wanted to
bring that to your attention so you would know that that will be when the
Wastewater ordinance comes. There will be an additional inspector out of
that. When this was originally prepared, the original proposal was to
include, and I talked to several of you, about making some changes in some
of the positions, especially those that have changed their duties and
their positions have been reorganized. We were doing this in conjunction
with the financial forecast. For instance, $40,000 has been eliminated
from the General Fund because we are moving two positions out of the
General Fund in the Development Department. Those will be paid fully out
of EDIT. The changes in the Development Department reflect the
reorganization of the duties and responsibilities in that department. The
staff has generated $200 million in additional development. The changes in
their duties and responsibilities have been rather extensive. We would
like to change the title of the Assistant Director of Development to
Assistant Director of Development and Inspections because he will be
reviewing the duties and supervising the inspectors and providing
cross-training. Then, in addition to the duties he now holds, the
Redevelopment Planner will have the title of Redevelopment Planner and
Neighborhood Planner. She will add neighborhood planning duties to the
work she is doing presently in terms of serving the Redevelopment
Commission and also the Engineering Department in reviewing plans. The
Administrative Assistant has added additional duties in CDBG,
Redevelopment, and Economic Development and she does the day-to-day
financial accounting for CD and the Redevelopment. In reviewing all of the
positions, the Human Resources Coordinator position had several years ago
been a part-time one. When it was changed, it was not given as a big boost
to put it into competitive with other similar positions in the City and
even now with this new proposal it is still about $9,000 below the
equivalent in Lafayette. There will be additional duties that she will
assume in terms of centralizing the record keeping and doing some more
duties in that area. The Parks and Rec change of $1,000 is reflected in
the two certifications of the Beautification and Stewardship Director. I
think you had those. Those were reviewed at the Pre-Council meeting. I
would recommend, in order to reflect the additional duties of each one of
these people and also to bring them in line with positions in the
community because we do need to keep these good employees here and not
risk losing them because they have done a very important job for us. So I
would ask for your support for this salary ordinance. Are there any
questions or comments?
Councilor Mills said I might just make a comment,
Mayor. Through a little bit of work in the New Chauncey Neighborhood
Association, I certainly have come into contact with people in the
Department of Development, particularly Allen Grady and Charlotte Martin,
so often. I think I really got an incredible appreciation for the job they
do in working with the neighborhoods. I'm certainly all in favor of
boosting the salaries of people that I think work really hard and do a
good job for the City. I know that Margy Deverall, also in that
department, has been really involved in all of the Wabash Landing plans. I
know how committed she is to the City itself. Again, I'd like to say I'm
in favor of those. I think the Department of Development has done a
wonderful job. I also think the Police Department, we should do everything
we can to put more police officers on the street. If that means hiring
more civilian dispatchers and technicians, then that's the way we should
move. In my neighborhood, District Two, New Chauncey, we certainly have
parking problems and adding additional parking officer is very much
appreciated. I would just like to give my support for all of these
changes.
Councilor Keen said I would have one concern in these
changes that were made for the seven people in the Department of
Development, Redevelopment, and others. I have kind of a concern about
what kind of a message are we sending to other employees in the City in
that these changes that we are talking about here, a lot of these reflect
funds coming out of other areas, as in EDIT or CDBG or whatever. There are
a lot of departments that the City has that do not access to those funds
to supplement or support their salaries, so I am concerned that we are
sending a message to other employees that if you don't have access to
that, you are stuck with where you're at.
Mayor Margerum said the review looks at those positions
that have changed in terms of additional duties or have additional title
change or reorganization, then we looked at how those would be funded. So
whether they were funded out of EDIT or the General Fund had nothing to do
with requesting an additional amount, that it reflect their additional
duties. Then, after that was done, then, for instance, the $40,000 that
was moved into EDIT did free up money in the General Fund. But all of
these changes were based on change in title, reorganization, or additional
duties. Every year we do have to make changes, otherwise, you've got a
very staid bureaucracy if you don't make some changes reflecting what the
new needs are.
Councilor Mills said I think if these changes happen to
people that are doing an outstanding job, we have to do our best to keep
them as City employees. None of them are making huge salaries. We've got
to make sure they stay here and not go elsewhere.
Councilor O'Callaghan said it is important to recognize
longevity and people that do well, but as the Mayor indicated, these are
changes for changes in job description, changes in responsibilities and
certainly every department head is invited to present any of those kinds
of changes. Is that correct?
Mayor Margerum said yes, that's right.
Councilor Keen said so all of the department heads were
informed that this was going to be taking place and they had an
opportunity to . . .
Mayor Margerum said I told the staff that if they had
any changes, they needed to justify them in terms of changes in duties or
responsibilities.
Councilor Cohen said I think there's a danger, too. We
are blessed and cursed with being next to Lafayette. We are very close to
being one city. Salaries at West Lafayette's population level are almost
at the same level as Lafayette and that's because we are close together,
so they are constantly being compared. I think unless we are ready to
become a farm system for Lafayette, we have to essentially compete with
Lafayette's salaries.
Councilor Keen said I would agree that we do have to
compete. This is really a difficult ordinance and with these changes, it
makes it difficult to deal with them because it's like a two-edged sword
because on one hand you're going to reward one group of employees. On the
other hand, you've got another group of employees who may be saying
"Well, that's not fair." Is there some way we can come up with a
system that would reward all employees who deserve to be rewarded in a
more . . .
Mayor Margerum said this is not . . . we are not
talking about . . . we are talking about rewards in the sense that they've
done a good job. All the employees have done a good job or they wouldn't
have gotten the 3.5% increase. These are ones that there has been a change
in duty or a reorganization that has given them additional duties. So that
is what we have always based increases over and above the standard
increase is change in duty or change in title and reorganization. So all
of these reflect that.
Councilor Windler said I think we would all love to
increase the amount of money that we pay our City employees, but we also
realize that come the end of the budget cycle, we have to justify the tax
rate that we put on the people of West Lafayette. I think it is very
reasonable, that given the fact that these people are in some way changing
jobs or changing responsibilities, that there is a commensurate change in
pay. I would gladly vote to give the other employees a higher pay raise if
somebody else would take the responsibility of explaining that property
tax change to the citizens.
Councilor Sparby said this is the third time I've been
involved in salary discussions for the City in my tenure on the Council.
We started the discussions back in April. It was made up of Councilor
Cohen and myself, Attorney Larry Cuculic, the Clerk-Treasurer, the Mayor,
and then Mrs. Foster was there from Human Resources to advise us if we had
any issues. There were two representatives of the Fire Department, two
representatives of Police, Wastewater, Street, one Park maintenance
individual, and one individual representing the clerical staff. We were
told at the time there would probably be about $10,000 worth of salary
changes, but we were provided with no details. We then looked at all the
available funds that the City had available for the next two years,
looking at revenue projections that the Clerk-Treasurer provided to us.
And we tried to come up with what was the best salary package that we
could offer for our employees. One of the other things that should have
been brought up at the time were changes in personnel, increases in
personnel, these were not brought up.
Mayor Margerum said yes they were. We discussed the
additional Code Enforcement Officer and we looked at the possibility of an
additional person in the Police Department, because I think you're
confusing the salary discussion which was to be the overall salary
increase for the total City. We had talked at the very beginning that we
were hoping to be able to add an additional person in the Police
Department depending on what that final salary increase was.
Councilor Sparby said where we are adding two full-time
people and one part-time person.
Mayor Margerum said that's right.
Councilor Sparby said we did not discuss that number of
people.
Mayor Margerum said but I think the important thing is
that the basic salary increase was what was the discussion with the
employees. Then after we see what the implications of that are, then you
step back and say now here are some changes that have to be made in terms
of change in personnel. So it has always been that way the other two times
you have been on that committee. We've done it that way because you can't
start out by saying you are going to have a position before you even know
what the basic percentage increase is going to be. If we hadn't been able
to work that out, then we would have been able to add any or make any
changes.
Councilor Sparby said I think personnel changes have
been more forthcoming than they were this time. Typically, Personnel
Committee has met prior to . . .
Mayor Margerum said they did meet.
Councilor Sparby said they met the day before the
agenda day deadline to be filed to meet this ordinance for the 2001
salary. Lafayette and Tippecanoe County have both hired professionals to
do job scoping for them. I strongly think that West Lafayette should look
at doing the same thing, rather than arbitrarily doing scoping with people
that are not trained in that field. It's caused problems yes, in the
County and Lafayette, but it is an attempt to provide the most fair
compensation available. When we met with the employees, we had some
departments that specifically asked, for example Wastewater Treatment
employees, said we would like to have more than 3.5% because our salaries
are not tied to the General Fund, they come from the Wastewater Treatment
Utility Fund which has an ample amount of cash in it. We told them no, we
would not do this, we wanted to treat all the employees fairly. Street and
Sanitation could do the same thing. They could take their money out of
LRS. We said no, that we would not do that. I think we are losing
credibility from our discussions with the employees. I've talked to
various employees. They are unhappy about what is going on. Also, I've
been told that a couple of these decisions were made based on the fact
that employees are threatening to seek employment elsewhere. It was just
ironic that my husband was going through his Dilbert calendar, he was a
little bit behind and there was a particular comic that struck me. This is
from June 25 where Dilbert goes into his boss and he says, "I want a
10% raise. There's no budget for raises. I have an offer from another
company that will pay me 15% more. I'll give you 20% if you stay. I
thought you said there were no budget for raises. Well that's supposed to
be a secret, but our policy is to give big raises to the people who spend
their time interviewing for other jobs. Good news. Secret company policy
is to reward disloyalty."
Mayor Margerum said I think that's most unfair. Just as
it's unfair to ask people to assume major responsibilities and change the
reorganization of a department and say that you can go ahead and do that
and we won't recognize that. We've done that in the past. It's no
different than what you've done on the last two. I think we have been fair
with our 3.5% increase. It's, I think, a good one.
Councilor Windler said 3.5% increase is a good
increase. It is not an uncommon business practice anywhere in the private
sector that when somebody changes jobs or gets a promotion or gets a new
title that they get a pay raise. That's all that the City is doing. This
isn't a new practice. This has been in practice since there was business.
I don't see how the City is doing anything extraordinary or unusual or
irregular by doing this. We've given a regular increase to the regular
City employees and those employees that have received a promotion or
received additional responsibilities have gotten a raise. That is the same
and it's true in business sector. It's true in the government sector, at
least here in West Lafayette. I don't see why this is causing such a shock
to some people. It's just not that unusual.
Councilor O'Callaghan said I guess I would just like to
reiterate that there are many very positive things in this ordinance. Very
positive to get more police officers out on the street. It is very
positive to have an additional Code Enforcement Officer. It is very
positive to have an additional Parking Inspector. I also want to reiterate
that it is the policy of the City that any department head can make a
presentation for increased job responsibilities or reorganization in a
department. To streamline these requests from the Department of
Development just seemed like a very streamlining way to go about it and to
have some cross-training and to really serve the citizens better. And so
I'm really supportive of serving the citizens better.
Councilor Windler moved to call the question.
Ordinance No. 19-00 passed first reading, 5-0.
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Resolution 17-00 A
Resolution Confirming the Designation of an Economic Revitalization Area
for Property Tax Abatement for OptoLynx, Inc. (Prepared by Department of
Development) Councilor Sparby read the resolution by title only and moved
that Resolution No. 17-00 be passed on first and only reading and the vote
be by roll call. Motion was seconded by Councilor Satterly.
Dave Monahan, President of OptoLynx, said I have
nothing further this evening. From my previous presentation, I think you
are happy to hear that. I thank you for your consideration in this.
Mayor Margerum said I would mention that we have to
have a public hearing. So I will open the public hearing to confirm the
designation of an economic revitalization area for property tax abatement
for OptoLynx, Inc. Is there anyone who wishes to speak for or against this
tax abatement? Hearing no comment, I close the public hearing. Is there
any discussion on this? I think we are all very pleased that you have come
to the point where you are able to ask for this which means that you are
making some additional investment in your company and I know that the
Council has been very supportive of high-tech developments.
There was no discussion.
Resolution No. 17-00 passed first and only reading,
7-0.
Resolution No. 18-00 A
Resolution Confirming the Designation of an Economic Revitalization Area
for Property Tax Abatement for SSCI, Inc. (Prepared by Department of
Development) Councilor Sparby read the resolution by title only and moved
that Resolution No. 18-00 be passed on first and only reading and the vote
be by roll call. Motion was seconded by Councilor Cohen.
Richard Ferguson, Chief Financial Officer of SSCI, said
also in the interest of time, I have no presentation, but am happy to
answer any questions.
Mayor Margerum said thank you, the same thing applies
in that we need to have a public hearing. So I will open the public
hearing on the designation of an economic revitalization area for property
tax abatement for SSCI, Inc. In there anybody who wishes to speak for or
against? Hearing none, I will close the public hearing.
Councilor Sparby said just one point before we call the
vote. So people don't get confused and think that we are just passing
these, we have had numerous presentations by both companies and have
looked at the details of these before, so this is not new to the Council.
Mayor Margerum said yes, thank you for that. Again, we
are very appreciative of the fact that you are expanding your company and
that we can cooperate and help in that way in doing the property tax
abatement. For the public also, this is an abatement. This is to phase in
the property tax. You are not excused forever from paying property tax.
There was no further discussion.
Resolution No. 18-00 passed first and only reading,
7-0.
Resolution No. 19-00 (Amended)
A Resolution Requesting the Transfer of Funds (Police, Development, EDIT,
Law Enforcement Continuing Education) (Prepared by the Clerk-Treasurer)
Councilor Sparby read the resolution and moved that Resolution No. 19-00
(Amended) be passed on first and only reading and the vote be by roll
call. Motion was seconded by Councilor Cohen.
Mayor Margerum said the Police request is for a video
camera that is no longer working. The request for the Economic Development
is for consulting, geotechnic service, and surveying services for
Tapawingo. The land acquisition funds of $180,000 will be for our share of
the purchase of the land for the child care facility in conjunction with
CityBus. That is the 20% of the $800,000 that CityBus will be receiving in
Federal Transit funds. In Development, from Legal Services to Contracts is
for a temporary employee. For Police, for shortfall in the instruction
account.
Councilor Keen said I would like to know on this one
from the Department of Development, what Park improvements are we not
doing this year to have an excess of $293,000 that we no longer need it?
Mayor Margerum said I don't know if Joe [Park
Superintendent Payne] wanted to speak to that. When this was put in there,
we thought there might be the Corps of Engineers would be proposing some
kind of construction project and that was the estimate as to what our
share might be. But we have not gotten to that point.
City Attorney Bauman said the grant on transportation
with CityBus came through before the other project did.
Mayor Margerum said we were just estimating that as the
amount that we would need to contribute toward the Corps of Engineers
work. So that will probably come next year. But that has not materialized.
City Attorney Bauman said again, that's part of both
Development and Parks Department have worked extensively to try to
leverage money so that we are basically matching 10, 15, 20 percent on
grant money rather than spending all local money for these projects.
Councilor Keen said it says here that the land
acquisitions funds will be used for our share of the purchase of the child
care facility on the Levee. I guess I was under the impression or
understanding that the day care center was one of the lessors of this
agreement and therefore why would we be purchasing land for them?
City Attorney Bauman said they won't be a lessor.
They'll purchase that piece of property.
Councilor Keen said in the original documentation that
I saw, if I'm not mistaken, I believe that the day care center was shown
as one of the lessors.
City Attorney Bauman said they will be a purchaser of
the property within the development. It will be, essentially, a horizontal
property regime. There will be other development around it, but they will
own that space constructed to their specifications. This will be similar
to the project which they had in Lafayette which is located at Third and
Ferry Street.
Councilor Keen said another question I have here too,
where does this money for this fit within the budget that we were given in
March in relationship to the Wabash Landing project? In reviewing through,
I don't see anything on here about land acquisition expenses or anything
on here. I was just kind of curious as to where that fits within there.
Mayor Margerum said did that come before we received
this grant?
City Attorney Bauman said yes, I think this has been a
subsequent, the grant has been a subsequent event.
Mayor Margerum said this is the Federal Transportation
grant. We had applied for this. It was a joint grant for the child care
facility and the bus depot. So at the time probably, that that was
prepared, that we hadn't gotten it yet.
Councilor Keen said when did we get the grant though?
Mayor Margerum said we were notified a month or two
ago?
City Attorney Bauman said it has been part of the
ongoing effort by the Development Department to pursue additional Federal
grant money.
Councilor Keen said I guess I would like be better
informed of these kinds of things as far as these agreements and that sort
of thing, because it just helps me to better understand these things.
City Attorney Bauman said you should go in and speak
with Mr. Andrew because I'm sure he'd be happy to update you on that.
Councilor Keen said I noticed he's not here tonight. I
was wanting to ask him these questions actually. So you are saying that
that land money is from a grant.
Mayor Margerum said yes, and that's our share of it,
this $180,000.
City Attorney Bauman said it's the local matching
share.
Mayor Margerum said this is the 20% of this total grant
so by investing this $180,000, we are receiving $800,000 more through
CityBus.
City Attorney Bauman said so we will not only invest in
the child care center, but also is related to improvements in terms of bus
pull-off and sidewalks in the immediate area to serve that.
There was no further discussion.
Resolution No. 19-00 Amended passed first and only
reading, 7-0.
Resolution No. 20-00 A
Resolution Appropriating the Necessary Funds Resulting from the 2000
Community Development Application of the City of West Lafayette Under
Title I of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, as Amended
(Submitted by Department of Development) Councilor Sparby read the
resolution and moved that Resolution No. 20-00 be passed on first and only
reading and the vote be by roll call. Motion was seconded by Councilor
Mills.
Mayor Margerum said this is the actual appropriation
into these general categories, but they reflect all of the public hearings
and the proposals that came before the Community Development Committee,
the Citizens Committee. These are then just broken down into these
categories.
There was no discussion.
Resolution No. 20-00 passed first and only reading,
7-0.
Resolution No. 21-00 A
Resolution Appropriating Insurance Recovery Received for Damage to City
Property (Police, Sanitation MVH) (Prepared by the Clerk-Treasurer)
Councilor Sparby read the resolution and moved that Resolution No. 21-00
be passed on first and only reading and the vote be by roll call. Motion
was seconded by Councilor Cohen.
There was no discussion.
Resolution No. 21-00 passed first and only reading,
7-0.
COMMUNICATIONS
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Paul Eiff, 615 Elm Drive, said we had a concern in our
neighborhood. There are some drainage problems that we wanted to convey to
the Council. In August 1996 is when everything began. Let me give you a
timeline to get you up to where we are today. August 1996, two holes
opened up in Elm Drive about 300 feet apart. One opened up between mine
and my neighbor's house and the other one was between that neighbor and
the following neighbor's house. They opened within an hour of each other.
They were about one-inch diameter and as far down as you could see in the
street. The following day the Street Department came out. We had called
that afternoon to report it. The Police marked it off that afternoon. The
following day, the Street Department evidently sent out an emergency crew
on a Sunday and repaired the street. They repaired it with about a truck
load of cinders. They just kept filling until it filled up. In the
following weeks, that settled. They came back, they patched again. That
continued on for about a month. From that point, every four to six months
they came back and it would settle between four and eight inches and they
would continue to patch the road because it became a pothole over and over
and over again. The Street Department, evidently, never communicated that
there was a problem there or that this hole was as deep as it had been, to
anyone. We began to notice in my household a backup of water pressure at
that point in which we at first thought it was our problem. That continued
on until it became a serious issue in February of 1998 at which time no
water would drain from our house. Upon inspection by plumbers, it was
discovered that there was a problem in our line. They found that just
under the street, the pipe had disintegrated. When we started tracking
where this was, they discovered that this was exactly where that hole had
opened up. At that time, because we had a more serious problem we called
the City. In fact, when this originally started, when the hole opened up
and they filled it with cinders, I was concerned but I had not seen at
that point any problems. I was concerned that this was something that had
collapsed in the street sewer, in the main line. The Wastewater Department
came out and took at it and said there was no problem. So at that point I
assumed there was no problem. But when we then tracked it and we had a
problem, the plumber found a problem that the pipe had been disintegrated
in that area, we contacted Wastewater again. They came out and just
pronounced that, well, this is our problem because it was not in the main
line. I had voiced to, it was Victor VanAllen, I believe Victor VanAllen
is his name from the City Wastewater. He told us it was our problem, we
would have to deal with it. But at that point, I said but you understand
that this is what happened. I gave him the history of what had happened
with those holes and also mentioned that there was house, obviously,
someone else was going to have this problem down the street when that one
came due as well. He said that well, that was not necessarily a problem or
not one that would be faced that day. We ended up flipping the bill to the
tune of $12,478.56. That included replacing about a 25 foot square section
out of the street to the center of the street and that went all the way
down to 18 feet. It was discovered that there were some problems with the
original contractor who had cut some corners with the way the pipes were
laid in. We believe that this eroded the material away above it. At which
point when the Street Department filled that in, the weight of the cinders
as opposed to the weight of dirt at 18 feet of it had disintegrated all
the pipes. Fairfield was the contractor that ended up having to come out
because it was a major feat getting that deep into the street. They came
out. They took a look at the situation and the foreman basically told me
that within a year he expected to be back for the other hole and then
within ten years he expected to do everybody on the street. He said that
this was going to be a problem that he figured the majority of the
neighborhood would go through and we would all be faced with it at one
point or another. He just mentioned that since our house was one of the
oldest on the block that we got to go first. That brought us up to getting
our problem fixed. Since then my house has had no problems. After that
point, every four to six months, this continued to be a problem for the
other hole. When initially my problem occurred, the other house was not
occupied. It turns out that we did not know which house that hole belonged
to, but we did know that we were sure it belonged to somebody else's
drainage system. A few weeks ago the second hole that always been there
settled about eight inches and then was filled once again. That brings us
up to today.
Curtis Tate said I am here for my wife, Jill Tate, who
is an educator within the City limits here. We both chose West Lafayette
for the convenience and the great city here. This morning we woke up about
7:30. To my amazement, I walked downstairs to take a quick shower and I
had three inches of wastewater in my basement. From basically 7:30 until
about 7:10 my wife and I, and my friend Mark, carried waste out of that
basement with five-gallon buckets. We also got a pump through a rental
company in Lafayette and that helped. By 6:30 our floor was finally at a
point where the waste particles were on our floor, but the water in the
bathroom and in our washing room in the basement was gone. But if you took
the pump off of the drain, within five minutes we would have an inch of
water in the area that was originally three inches. So, at a quarter to
eight we called a plumber. his name is Fred Thompson Plumbing who has been
in business for 30 years. His two associates come over. They have 100 feet
of line. They use 100 feet. The two guys are amazed, they have never seen
anything like this. They've seen water in basements, but they've never had
to go through 100 feet of line to roto rooter. They had to call the boss,
which was Fred. He brings over an extra 50. So they take the machine out
of the basement, hook up an extra 50 and stick it back through. One
hundred forty, 135 feet they went, nothing. They went a little bit
further, they started hitting something solid. During this time, prior to
the boss coming over, we called the West Lafayette Wastewater. Mr.
VanAllen came out. At that point, he came downstairs and he saw that solid
waste wasn't floating. It was basically the waste from the lining of the
drain. So it was fresh water that was coming up. At that point he said it
was our problem, to put it plain and simple, that it was our problem
because it came from the basement out to the street and that there was no
solid sewage floating, so it wasn't the City's problem. About 1.5 hours
passed and he came back. The plumbing men said we're not getting anywhere
with this. So he called in some of your equipment. One was an optical
truck. The other one was your flushing system truck. They put the optical
unit down the manhole. They went about 20 feet and they couldn't go any
further with this optical equipment. They came up kind of scratching their
heads. So they sent the flushing truck down to the corner of Elm and
Salisbury to flush back. This took over 30 minutes to do. So once this
time passed and they were able to get it flushed out, they came back in
with the optical unit and went up and got up to our area which is an
additional 57 feet. So they got the optical unit and they looked in and
there was this rock that was basically clogging our spout into the main
system. It's exactly centered to where this sink hole is at. The plumbers
used equipment as well as American Water Company was out and they had the
same type of equipment following the line as it went through our yard and
it went straight out to this sink hole. The first time I met my neighbor
was mid-morning because he went through this whole situation four years
ago or two years ago. He brought me all this information. I was just
amazed at the fact that something that is this magnitude has developed and
developed and there is not communication within departments. Maybe there
is, but the problem hasn't been solved, because it seems to me the amount
of weight of this rock that they keep putting into this hole every four to
six months, basically, is wear-and-tear on the residential or homeowners'
services. It's been a long day and I'm lost for words for the most part.
I'm glad I'm standing back here and I'm sure you are, too, because I
showered in my neighbors spigot before I came in.
Mayor Margerum said we certainly sympathize with you
and know that that is a very serious problem and maybe I could ask Mr.
Darter [WWTU Director] if he would maybe talk and review it with Mr.
VanAllen, look at the total problem and if you would do that.
Mr. Tate said time span on that? Right now we don't
have running water. Like I said, if we didn't have the pump, our basement
would be flooded and it's a furnished basement.
Mr. Eiff said he has nowhere to pump, but out into the
street.
Mr. Tate said the previous owners, real quickly, bought
the house the late 50s. Their children had bedrooms down there. They had a
rental property in the mid-70s, early 80s down there, so there has been
living quarters down there. When we bought the house, we were confident,
through their word, that there had never been water down there. The paint
on the walls was old faded yellow, it was dry as a bone. It took,
probably, two days for a dehumidifier to get full. It was a very dry
basement up until this point.
Mayor Margerum said we may need the Engineer to look at
it too and see what the original issue was. Mike [WWTU Director Darter]
would you be willing to look into this the first thing in the morning?
WWTU Director Darter said I'll talk to him in the
morning, I'm sure he's got the phone number.
Mayor Margerum said they can't go on much longer
without water. We had that happen to us once and I know what the feeling
is. It's not a good one.
Mr. Eiff said there is also a concern, both neighbors
across the street from us are having similar problems. One has had similar
problems for years, but the other one we've noticed similar situations.
Their sidewalk has settled quite a bit. It's amazing the only person in
the neighborhood who doesn't seem to have any problem is the one between
us, but that's just by luck, I believe. The concern we have is that the
original contractors, which are long gone this was in the 50s, I don't
believe did a thorough job at the time. But, correct me if I'm wrong,
somebody is inspecting what they are doing and approving it or writing off
on it.
Mayor Margerum said probably back in the 50s, there
wasn't much inspection.
City Attorney Bauman said a lot of times they just
inspect the connection. Under our ordinance, the lateral is the
responsibility of the homeowner, but if there was a sink hole and we went
out and dumped in there without getting with people, then . . .
Mr. Tate said in late March there was at least a 10
inch indention from the surface of the road down.
City Attorney Bauman said that was, obviously, we were
not addressing the problem at that point and we should be.
Mr. Eiff said the biggest concern was that when it
originally opened, it was obvious there was something wrong. Victor
VanAllen actually pointed out the fact that no one said anything to him at
the time and that he has actually made a comment to the Street Department,
some of the people there, that something needs to be done here and it
needed to be told to them and nothing was.
Mayor Margerum said I certainly agree with that and
WWTU Director Darter can get in contact with you first thing tomorrow
morning and we'll see what we can do.
Mr. Tate said thank you.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business at this time,
Councilor Sparby moved for adjournment. Motion was seconded by
Councilor Mills and passed viva-voce. The time being 10:26 P.M.
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